CAC Stickers
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I am think about selling off some of my gold coins, having
fun collecting morgans .....
Are gold coins worth sending in for CAC stickers - does that
increase the value a little?
Example: This gold coin I have is valued by PCGS at $4500.00
and I am interested it selling it and others also ....
Any advice appreciated,
Al / USMC
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In order to attempt to avoid dropping a lit match into a dumpster of gasoline, let me just simply say that a CAC sticker on that coin will in no way make it worth less, but it may make it worth more.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
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Tom is exactly right. Compare CAC prices online against PCGS. And then explore recent auction records of CAC anf non-CAC coins. Good luck either way.
Some people will pay more for coins with a sticker and others will whine because they do.
CAC price report has that coin at $5940. Guides are just guides but from all the coins that I have bid on, CAC on Gold means higher prices. Good luck.
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Hi Tom,
Who is Cpl. Michael E. Thompson - a Marine?
I was with the first Marine Combat Regiment (26th Marines)
to enter Vietnam in the spring of 1966
Al / USMC
CAC ms65 generic Saints at Long Beach were generally offered at least $300-400 more and sometimes even more than that.
As a generalization, the pricing differential between coins without CAC's and those with CAC's is greatest with gold coins. The REASON for that is, as a generalization, a smaller percentage of gold coins merit the CAC than the percentage of Copper or Silver coins. My understanding of why that is that John Albanese and his team feel that the surfaces of a lot of gold coins had their surfaces "treated" in some fashion.
I'll make it VERY simple for you: For the cost of only about $16 per coin plus round trip shipping (and as a Collector member you get refunded/credit the $16 for coins that DON'T get CAC sticker's), there's no reason in the world not to submit them!
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Cpl. Michael E. Thompson was the son of one of our PCGS board members (BRdude) and he was killed in western Iraq on September 17, 2008. I posted a thread dedicated to him at the time, but also wrote about him on my website-
http://www.tbnumismatics.com/cpl-michael-eyre-thompson--the-walking-liberty-half-dollar.html
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Hi Steve,
When you send coins in, are they removed from the holders,
or are they left sealed in the PCGS holders? A have 12 British
Sovereigns - all MS63 - MS65+ and some 100 Corona Austrian
gold (MS65) all graded by PCGS I would like to get stickers on.
Al / USMC
It will certainly make it easier to sell.
CAC ALWAYS leaves the coins in the holders. They either apply the sticker, or they don't!
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
As I tiptoe around the dumpster…
The CAC sticker means another set of well respected eyes have seen a coin and believes the coin is solid for the grade, maybe even one step higher. The sticker is an attention getter and the more eyes that see the coin the better chance it will realize a higher price at auction.
I’m not Steve, but suggest you go to the CAC website to see which coins are eligible for stickering. World coins are among those which aren’t.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
The round trip registered shipping on a $5,000 coin will be about $70.00, two $5,000 coins the round trip shipping would be around $90.00 so you better have a pretty good idea of what JA is looking for before you just go ahead and submit. My first submission included 4 straight graded $5 Liberties and JA thought all of them had been cleaned.
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WINGS is the CAC of world coins. If you google wings and cac you’ll find an article listing the various stickers. For some reason the link never works when posted here. Always gets flagged for review which is a black hole.
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Yes send them in.
He mentioned one U.S. gold coin and multiple world gold coins. CAC doesn’t evaluate world coins.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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I will add to the opinion that a CAC sticker will enhance the value of the coin. Cheers, RickO
Sending it to get CAC'd also broadens your potential buyer audience as there's many collectors out there who can't buy a slabbed coin without JA's sticker.
John Albanese is an expert in Gold and can detect doctoring that many others cannot. Gold and silver are completely different animals and are altered in different ways. Personally, I like CAC stickers on gold, because it tells me that they haven’t been puttied or fooled with or anything.
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CAC stickers tell you CAC likes a coin. Everything else inferred is conjecture.
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If it's a really nice coin, I'd spend the money on a TrueView.
If it's bagged out and looks like poo, a CAC sticker would sell it.
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Don’t be silly.
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Poof
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He is not being silly!
Everything else is market sentiment.
This, and nothing else.
He is being intentionally dismissive. Yes, poo with CAC sells better than poo without CAC, but it still sells for poo prices. But that ignores the fact that it is hard to get poo into a PCGS holders in the first place and almost twice as hard to get poo in a holder and then CACed. So, if you look at a PCGS/CAC coin and think "poo", congratulations on having incredibly high standards.
Yes, I think silly.
Just sold for 50% over guide:
Something to perhaps add a little perspective on the 1910-S $5 Indian auction:
PCGS pop at 55 - 217; PCGS price guide at 55 - $1060
CAC pop at 55 - 10; CAC price guide at 55 - $1100
This auction realization with the juice - $1527
Note that the CAC pop (of 10) at 55 would include both PCGS and NGC for any submissions that were beaned.
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Now listen boy, I'm tryin' to teach you sumthin' . . . . that ain't no optical illusion, it only looks like an optical illusion.
My mind reader refuses to charge me....
I will never stop being amazed at the discussion around CAC. You could take any phrase bashing CAC, replace it with the words PCGS and NGC 30 years ago, and it would read the same. Remember when dealers were adamant that they did not need PCGS and NGC's opinion on a coin?
absolutely agree, and value will be added to these boards too.
How? Once you get all your gems back, you will likely start a new thread, CAC will be in subject line, hence we can be assured of yet another 300+ thread.
CAC is currently not accepting new coins - according to their website - until further notice
Exact coin sold at Stacks Less than two months ago for $1200 with juice.
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-S732U/1910-s-indian-half-eagle-au-55-pcgs-cac
I find this interesting.
I just looked at their website, and don't see what you saw. Can you "guide" me to where you see that message?
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
I think he meant applications for membership
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Where on their site? Or do you mean no new collector members? Their site doesn't indicate they aren't accepting new coins, especially since they just shipped back some of mine...
They only grade old coins. I think you may have meant they are not taking applications?
CAC isn't accepting new coin submissions from new users/new memberships. He halted new memberships so if you wanna submit a coin in for CAC review you have to do it through a coin dealer who already has a CAC membership. That's my understanding at least.
If you are a member you can submit, if you are not a member you cannot apply for membership at this time as they are not accepting new members currently.
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