Need VAM help with double-nostril Silver Dollars
DavidH
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I am trying to catalog a Silver Dollar collection I inherited a year ago. I have several silver dollars that have double-nostrils, but haven't been able to find the VAM #'s for them. I've search books and online, with no luck. Can someone help me?
1922-S Peace
1921-S Morgan
Thank you in advance
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Interesting. I never heard of such a thing 🤔
Mr_Spud
join the club i never heard of such a thing
Aug 11th
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Reverse photos please.
They also hair red hairs on them
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The Peace shows mechanical doubling on the 9.
Not sure what to think about the nose, that is quite the shift to not be seen on other areas of the coin.
Edited to add: Looks like machine doubling on the nose & lips.
Those stars sure look funky on that 21.
@DavidH Welcome, you can slide on over to Vamworld.com and study up on the 1922-S Peace. Don't forget to come back now y'all. Peace Roy
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@DavidH.... Welcome aboard.... the '21 Morgan looks like machine doubling - no numismatic value. Not sure about the Peace... it looks like it has a hit near the tip of the nose, giving it the visual effect of doubling... ICBW... Need better pictures... Lighting, angle etc. Cheers, RickO
I'm wondering if that's m.d on the nose as well (I'm giving this a guess to)
Chances are there's nothing but machine doubling on the Peace dollar. The Morgan looks like a 21-S with die erosion making you think there's doubling. These can be very difficult to attribute.
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I have already been through all the Vamworld, that's when I decided to find a forum. I've only been diving into coins for the past year, so I have a lot to learn. I am struggling with the difference between machine doubling and doubled die, so I am highlighting everything I find, and will go back to them as my knowledge base increases. With that said...
The 1921 Morgan cotton balls are pressed together, with the 'pod' on the left one showing a different pattern.
Here are the reverse images
Has anyone suggested that it's fake?
I apologize for the bad images, but I am currently stuck with the images I have. It's a long story, and not something I can post here, due to strong advice from our lawyer. If you absolutely MUST know, send me a private message.
I appreciate any help you can give me in order to get an estimate of what some of the more unusual coins might be worth.
That's a thought, however, I know where the coins came from. My grandfather, born in 1909, started collecting coins at a very young age. He would set money aside every week and when he had enough money, he'd either go to the bank or to a coin shop and buy the best coin available for the money he had at that time.
His collection consisted of approximately 9000 coins, all silver. It was split three ways between his 3 daughters, so my sister and I inherited 3,000 coins when my mother pasted away last year.
If they were making fake 1921's in the 1920's, it could be fake.
I was thinking more of the 1922.
If real, that 1922 coin was NOT collected in the 1920s with that much circulation.
Your grandfather would have been 21 in 1930 during the depression when $1 was a lot of money. Given the amount of wear on those coins, they were likely collected in the 1930s or later. There have always been fakes out there. Have you weighed the coins?
It could simply be a very worn die, of course. But it is a very mushy looking coin.
A strike doubled coin would have no premium. Those two coins shown unless determined to be an unknown VAMs (highly unlikely but not impossible) would be $20-ish for the Peace and $25-ish for the Morgan.
You are correct about the coins my grandfather collected...he was a collector from approximately the 1920s to the 1980s. Over that time, he purchased Morgan and Peace dollars, so I have no doubt he was still purchasing 1921 coins in the '80s. And he had a lot more money in the 70s and 80s, so he would have bought more of his collection in those decades.
I appreciate your advice, I will weigh all coins as soon as I can.
"I have already been through all the Vamworld, that's when I decided to find a forum. I've only been diving into coins for the past year, so I have a lot to learn. I am struggling with the difference between machine doubling and doubled die, so I am highlighting everything I find, and will go back to them as my knowledge base increases. With that said..."
John Wexler has a good tutorial on how to differentiate a true doubled die from machine doubling. Go here https://doubleddie.com/ to have a look.
Great link, thank you.
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