Is this 1883 Carson City Morgan authentic?
goldrealmoney79
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Came across this listing and was hoping to get second opinions or group consensus.
The coin has the distinct hit on the reverse on the eagle breast that you typically see on fakes.
The look of the coin doesnt scream fake but does kinda look suspicious with the toning. Plus its from an overseas seller.
Is this coin authentic? or is counterfeit? Its hard for me to say either way which one it is, and I am hoping for more experienced opinions.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265319834135?hash=item3dc64b6217:g:qOEAAOSwlINhQ1vJ
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For me, it's tough to tell with the slightly out of focus images but I'd wait for a slabbed version to come along. The surfaces look odd... out of country seller with no returns on a raw coin... what could possibly go wrong?!!
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Not a terrific photo, yet yes. I think it is authentic.
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No good.
Something looks off. I would say no.
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what do you think specifically? the color? maybe some micropitting?
the details obv/rev seem ok. dentils, hair, mm, central areas.
i won't offer an opinion one way or the other (rare) but i don't like the lighting/color to be sure.
@LanceNewmanOCC "what do you think specifically?"
The mark on the breast is weak but it is there plus the broken/filled G of God is common on them.
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isn't that an argument for it being authentic?
No, it's an argument for it being a counterfeit.
Edited to add: Sorry, I should have been more clear on my answer.
The mark on the breast is weak but it is there plus the broken/filled G of God is common on the counterfeit reverse.
It is gone.
i only asked because the broken/filled G is also super common on authentic morgans as well (as i'm sure you know). as to to the breast, i am not entirely sure which mark specifically you are referring to but it isn't a big deal to point it out. just curious is all. thanks
@LanceNewmanOCC
Yes, a broken G is not uncommon but this one is more of a blob and the CC's don't have a bunch of broken G listings.
This is the mark on the breast.
That is a fake CC Morgan.... and the listing has been pulled..... PUP's listed above.... Plus, I pull out my CC Morgan and when I compare it to this one... definitely different. The rims also have a cast look. Cheers, RickO
good point about it not being on the CCs nearly as much and thanks for the pup identifier on the breast!