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The Life and Times of the 1933 Double Eagles

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 13, 2021 12:49AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Sotheby's has some good diagrams of the 1933 DEs in the auction lot description of the Farouk-Weitzman coin.

It's worth noting that the Farouk coin previously belonged to Max Berenstein and J.F. Bell, both of whom had another coin, so from a provenance perspective we have:

Collectors: Max Berenstein > J.F. Bell > King Farouk > Stuart Weitzman

All:

It's great to see all the owners. Here they are in alphabetical order by last name.

  1. L.G. Barnard
  2. J.F. “James” Bell, alias for Jake Shapiro
  3. Max Berenstein
  4. Frederick Charles Cogswell (F.C.C.) Boyd
  5. T. James Clarke
  6. Louis Edward Eliasberg Sr.
  7. Farouk bin Fuad
  8. James Flanagan
  9. Joan Langbord
  10. James A. Stack
  11. Stuart Weitzman
  12. Charles Williams

Ref: https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2021/three-treasures-collected-by-stuart-weitzman/the-1933-double-eagle



Here's the Berenstein-Bell-Farouk-Weitzman coin, the only one with a TrueView:

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    goldengolden Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great chart.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CAC really hurt their brand putting a bean on that coin IMHO.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,083 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    CAC really hurt their brand putting a bean on that coin IMHO.

    How do you feel about PCGS and their brand, having graded it as they did?

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Same!

    @MFeld said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    CAC really hurt their brand putting a bean on that coin IMHO.

    How do you feel about PCGS and their brand, having graded it as they did?

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,598 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    CAC really hurt their brand putting a bean on that coin IMHO.

    How do you feel about PCGS and their brand, having graded it as they did?

    Think the rain will hurt the rhubarb?

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway... "Think the rain will hurt the rhubarb?" Not if it keeps up!! ;):D Cheers, RickO

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    cccoinscccoins Posts: 287 ✭✭✭✭

    Amazing chart, well done and easy to understand. Should there be an entry which shows when they became illegal to own?

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    jt88jt88 Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good to learn the history of the coin.

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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Roger Burdette speculates that 4 or 5 remain at large.
    The secret service is apparently aware of one that's outside US jurisdiction.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think this flattering picture on the cover of the greysheet says it all regarding my thoughts on the 33 Saint.

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    SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    King Farouk was rough on coins, imagine this got flipped around a bit.

    In memory of my kitty Seryozha 14.2.1996 ~ 13.9.2016 and Shadow 3.4.2015 - 16.4.21
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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Meanwhile, I send this one in for a regrade and it comes back the same :/ (MS64)
    Makes ya wonder.

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    MartinMartin Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rarity ads a point or two. Just like ownership
    Martin

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    jkrkjkrk Posts: 967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm sitting here contemplating my navel and a thought comes over me.

    Was the final price of the 33 affected by the grade or the CAC sticker?

    If not... as Hillary Clinton famously said,,, "What difference does it make?"

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 13, 2021 6:34PM

    I'm wondering when all the owners of 63 and under Saints attack PCGS because their coins are not in a 65 holder. I can understand gradeflation with the likes of an 1804 Dollar or top notch Early copper. But geeze! This was a coin 20th century coin struck for circulation and should be graded like the rest of them!

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