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Check out this counterfeit 1965 quarter I rescued from a Coinstar reject tray

seanqseanq Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 7, 2021 6:48PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I haven't seen much in the reject trays lately, but last weekend I scored a silver dime, a few corroded zincolns, a 2032 watch battery, and this coin. It weighs only 3.9g, shows no copper on the rim, and the reeding is quite crude.




I found a couple of old threads about counterfeits made by GIs in Vietnam in this time period, does anyone know if this could be one of those?

I've been collecting contemporary counterfeits for the last year or so, but I never thought I'd pull one from circulation.

Sean Reynolds

Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor

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  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it. Excellent find. I once had a 1960 Roosevelt that was a contemporary counterfeit.

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  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭



    This is my 65 GW XF45.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2021 9:22PM

    Why would anyone slab a clad 1965 XF45 quarter? The coin is worth, at most, 50 cents.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2021 9:50PM

    @Barberian said:
    Why would anyone slab a clad 1965 XF45 quarter? The coin is worth, at most, 50 cents.

    I used to ask questions like that! No more though!
    Good question, with lots of possible correct answers. But do any of them make sense to us?
    Probably not. But it DID make sense to someone when submitting, and I very much hope they found what they were looking for.

    I think the bigger question is ‘why would anyone bother to counterfeit a 1965 clad quarter?

    Cool counterfeit by the way!

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nwcoast said:

    @Barberian said:
    Why would anyone slab a clad 1965 XF45 quarter? The coin is worth, at most, 50 cents.

    I used to ask questions like that! No more though!
    Good question, with lots of possible correct answers. But do any of them make sense to us?
    Probably not. But it DID make sense to someone when submitting, and I very much hope they found what they were looking for.

    Cool counterfeit by the way!

    At least they didn't pay for a Trueview photo. I'd hate to be the coin dealer that has to break the news to them what their slabbed coin is worth.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,245 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not mine, but another neat example:

    peacockcoins

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    The XF45 was an oopsie at the time. I added it to one of my submissions last year. It has grown on me learning about lowball collecting. Would not be interested in the 1979 GW with TrueView tho. It is Genuine/Details. I would buy the 1969 VF35 to add to my Lowball Quarter collection.

  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2021 10:48PM

    I can think of few better places for the old saying.
    “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” than its application to the above coins- even the counterfeit.
    Overall. It applies to much of our collection tastes and diversity.
    And, cool that the question of the circumstances in grading the common quarter was answered! Thank you. :-)

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting find in a coinstar. I have found foreign coins, washers and buttons... Never a counterfeit coin. Cheers, RickO

  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The most obvious reason to slab these circulated quarters seems to be to claim that you have the sole example graded (in that particular grade).

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 8, 2021 8:47AM

    @Modwriter said:
    The XF45 was an oopsie at the time. I added it to one of my submissions last year. It has grown on me learning about lowball collecting. Would not be interested in the 1979 GW with TrueView tho. It is Genuine/Details. I would buy the 1969 VF35 to add to my Lowball Quarter collection.

    "Genuine/Details" coins unacceptable? I'm glad to see that you have some standards. For a minute there, I thought this was all craziness. But why XF? Why not G?

    I get out of bed and the first thing I read is some Governor making the most ignorant statement I've heard in years. Then I read this gem and now I'm fully awake. Thanks for the laughs.

    Have you considered going into politics?

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As the author of many of those “Vietnam” comments, this piece does not ring any bells in my memory of pieces I saw while at Coin World in the 70’s. However, it is a lot more circulated than what we were seeing. You can say “probably made in Vietnam” and not be wrong.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nwcoast said:

    @Barberian said:
    Why would anyone slab a clad 1965 XF45 quarter? The coin is worth, at most, 50 cents.

    I used to ask questions like that! No more though!
    Good question, with lots of possible correct answers. But do any of them make sense to us?
    Probably not. But it DID make sense to someone when submitting, and I very much hope they found what they were looking for.

    I think the bigger question is ‘why would anyone bother to counterfeit a 1965 clad quarter?

    Cool counterfeit by the way!

    If it cost you 5 cents to make a quarter, and you could do it relatively easily and create many of them, why not?

    thefinn
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nwcoast said:
    I think the bigger question is ‘why would anyone bother to counterfeit a 1965 clad quarter?

    The answer is inflation. In 1965, a clad quarter was worth $2.15 in today's money (according to the official Consumer Price Index). So counterfeiting a quarter was likely worthwhile then, even if it wouldn't be now.

    My Adolph A. Weinman signature :)

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:

    @Modwriter said:
    The XF45 was an oopsie at the time. I added it to one of my submissions last year. It has grown on me learning about lowball collecting. Would not be interested in the 1979 GW with TrueView tho. It is Genuine/Details. I would buy the 1969 VF35 to add to my Lowball Quarter collection.

    "Genuine/Details" coins unacceptable? I'm glad to see that you have some standards. For a minute there, I thought this was all craziness. But why XF? Why not G?

    I get out of bed and the first thing I read is some Governor making the most ignorant statement I've heard in years. Then I read this gem and now I'm fully awake. Thanks for the laughs.

    Have you considered going into politics?

    I have nothing against Genuine/Details coins. I have recently given thought about starting a pre-1900 coin set with Genuine/Details labels. I would consider buying and adding any coin graded from XF down to PO01 to my collection. I still buy AU and MS graded coins. I do not care for politicians these days.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why not just purchase crappy coins off of eBay? You can save on not having to pay for someone's fees for having them certified as crappy.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have one, somewhere that I got back then, I don't remember the date but it was possibly about 1968.

    I'll have to search for it.

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I too found a counterfeit clad quarter years ago. Don't know if I saved or tossed but will look when I get the safe open next.

    bob :)
    I'm thinking it is a '65

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Must have tossed it.

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neat find!

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