ANACS Slabbed Coins
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I have been sticking to PCGS & NGC in looking at Morgans
for my collection. I see alot of ANACS holders when looking.
Is their coin grades equal in accuracy to PSGS & NGC
Would I have any reason not to get any in ANACS holders?
Any advice appreciated,
Al / USMC
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I wouldn't hesitate if I like the coin. I especially like the old small white ANACS holders. Just bought a coin in one last night.
Bought this last night. Old blue label ANA. Pre-Anacs. Looks like it could go 65.
I love seeing quality coins at a discount in ANACS holders, here is a smattering of scarce coins on old ANACS holders
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
I trust an ANACS slab as far as I can throw it, which is actually pretty far.
Like any grading service, there will be coins that you do and don't agree with. ANACS is pretty good mostly.
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While most of my coins are in NGC and PCGS slabs, I have several US gold coins in both ANACS and ICG slabs that are nice and properly graded. I don't hesitate to buy any coin in an ANACS or ICG slab if I like it and the price is right.
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I have a really nice white holder ANACS if you have money to spend on it.
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I like how the small original holders tone the coin. Been collecting them for years now and have over 160 of he holders with some rare coins in them.
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My avatar coin is in a small ANACS holder now that you mention it.
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The small slabs are fine.
I love the small white "soap bar" Anacs holders. They did a great job grading back then. I dont have any newer Anacs holders so I dont know how they grade now.
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All of the TPGs have had the same stressor - paying customers who want their coins to grade higher.
They've all had good days and bad days, however, you choose to define them.
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I've found some really nice under-graded coins in old ANACS holders.
I try to only buy PCGS, as a dealer it’s easier to sell the PCGS coins.
Except not really. The SWH run from the ANA days up through the middle of their ownership by Amos Press and thus their 1st experiment with market grading.
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I've posted this set in another thread but I am enamored with the Gen 1 (soapbox with blue font) holders:
I grade the coin. If it matches what the label says, then I am interested. If it is lower, and the seller won't negotiate, then I move along. Knowing how to grade makes things much more interesting. And then if I need or want to sell it, I either sell to someone that knows what I have, or have it reholdered in a TPG slab that those that can't tell the difference will accept.
I cracked one of the old white holders, it was a 1907-D $10 lib graded ms-61.
What I don’t hear people say, which the above quote kinda touches on, but the plastic inside the slab smelled Horrible like a very strong foul plastic.
I submitted it to PCGS raw and it graded 61.
It's all about what the people want...
I agree with the sentiment to buy the coin and not the slab. If you can grade with reasonable accuracy, that is.
Lots of great coins in the older, white slabs. I've crossed many over to PCGS. A few even upgraded.
Dave
Carful though, many a dipped out circulated classic in an ANACS holder when it didn’t pass the others muster esp by the 2000s
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
ANACS is pretty tough graders.
The old 'soap bar' ones can be undergraded.
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I got a few in the small slabs as well, I like them
Learn to grade and buy the coin...... The holder means something in the market of course, but if you are collecting, it is the coin/price that matters. Cheers, RickO
I must have bot almost 100 Morgans in white ANAC slabs on EBAY 15+ years ago. The Blue holders were just coming out. Most were spot on and maybe 5 were over-graded and I was disappointed with purchase. But as many or more were under-graded. I do not think any would get a details grade @ PCGS. They were always selling for about a 20+% discount from the PCGS and NGC slabs. With a discerning eye, I am extremely happy with the purchases.
Very nice 85 S @coastaljerseyguy . Nicest 61 I have ever seen. Way undergraded from what I can see in the photos.
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Thanks, I think so also. Very superficial hits to cheek, nothing deep. It is as good as a lot of 63's I have. I find that most ANACS slabs under the 1000000 Cert # to be solid.
Anacs: technical grading
PCGS & NGC: market grading.
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Capt Henway posts here and was an early grader at ANACS. I would certainly trust him.
You can learn a lot about a grading company from their pop reports. Grading companies without pop reports raise a lot of flags for some people. YMMV.
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First that’s something you need decide for yourself. The ANACS coins I have look very nice for grade so that works for me and I price them simply cost plus or at say CPG or CW Trends. As far as generalizations about TPG’s Not my game. Anacs, ICG, PCGS NGC accepted by eBay works good enough for me.
I recently bought a really nice flashy Anacs AU 58 $2.50 Indian from dealer set up next to me at show about 5 pct over bid. It sold around CPG from my online store about 2 weeks later. Did well with it. An MS 70 Mexico Onza really looked pretty in its beautiful yellow Anacs holder picked up from GC sold quickly too about cost plus 50 pct.
I had a lot of my key coins graded by ANACS within the past 4 years, the vast majority in the VF to MS range. I haven't had too much to complain about in their grading. They did surprise me on more than one occasion by grading higher than I would've. But when I compared my ANACS-graded coin to a similarly graded coin by the other TPG's, I found that ANACS was spot-on and that it was me who was off base.
I too have only one classic soap box type ANACS in my collection. Although, I do have a pre- ANACS slab from PCI graded Morgan also. The photo type. I also like the small slabbed ANACS holders. Been thinking of crossing to PCGS? Upgrade?
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It is about the coin and not the holder and it is incumbent upon you to know what matters.
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Rhetorical question: Are coin grades equal in accuracy even across PCGS, or across NGC (same coin type/same TPG)?
Answer to your question: within reason, yes.
The only reason might be re-sale consideration. Coins in PCGS and NGC holders are, fairly or unfairly, preferred by some collectors, reducing the "demand" pool of buyers. Consequently, re-sale may take longer to get your asking price, or alternatively, bring a sale price lower than comparable coins in other holders.
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Sometimes I can’t tell if your joking or forget that last week you asked the same question. Do you not like a anacs or ngc holders? Always eager to spend money for a gamble on a +. I don’t know how you do it but my poor old heart would give out. That said… Joey. Your the man and my respect for you is quite high 🙏
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You need to learn your ANACS history...
If it's White, it's likely right.
If it's Blue, the grade ain't true.
If it's Yellow, check it, fellow.
For the first one, the SWH, you need to know that ANA days were strongly technical grading. There are coins of that era that will grade higher and those that will grade lower. And most of the slabs have been picked over time and time again.
When Amos Press bought them, grading shifted towards today's market-based grading. Officially it's not true, but coins get a bump for certain things and a knock for others.
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I won a DMPL Morgan on GC Sunday and it arrived today. I liked it in the pics, so we’ll see what I think when I get home and can see it in person.
I probably was able to win it due to the holder, so if there’s a holder discount when I sell (if ever) I should be OK. I buy for collecting, but my budget is usually fairly tight. If the coin fits my desires and budget, the slab is a much lower concern.
does ANACS with CAC sell for less than PCGS CAC and NGC CAC ??
For some strange reason cac doesn't sticker ANACS coins.
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