Anyone here have experience with this eBay seller? Lots of high dollar raw coins.
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I am amazed at some of the prices his raw coin are bringing and the feedback seems like the buyers are very happy with their purchases. Makes me wonder where all of these coins are coming from.
https://ebay.com/sch/canyoncity_coin/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_sop=16&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1
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That seller sure has a lot of coins listed as “FRESH FROM SEALED BANK BAG”, “FRESH FROM ORIGINAL ROLL” and “FROM ORIGINAL COLLECTION”!
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I've not dealt with that seller, but I'm sceptical. Their photos are not good enough for me to want to spend that much money on their coins. Maybe the coins really are that nice, maybe not, I'd need to see them in person to be sure and make a decision based on that. In summary, i wouldn't buy from them based solely on their photos.
I'm not that much into Morgans, but I never heard of an original bag of 1889-CC or 1895-S or 1901.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
If everything was on the up and up why would he not have some of these unicorns graded?
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Likely did and is selling those under a different ID to mask these as not good grading candidates.
However, if you like one of his coins he does accept returns.
Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.
Why do the dollars all have a similar look?
Well, just Love coins, period.
63 revised feedback would suggest otherwise.
100% feedback. Customer service is good in my experience. They accepted for return two rolls of Lincolns that I bought from them that were bank rolls from the '40's. I wasn't looking to find key dates but was looking to find a few coins from the '30's with mint luster. Absent any of those, I sent the rolls back without removing a single coin from them. Caused some head scratching with them but they refunded and I gave them positive feedback.
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$2.99 shipping for a $12K coin!
Most look cleaned/whizzed and retoned (AT) to me...
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They must be selling their very best coins as for the last 10 pages of feedback, other than 1 1914 D Lincoln which sold in the thousands, all their sales were in the $80 to $400 range. One would think that the photos of these calibur coins would be spot on and when not makes me wonder. Still yet with 34k feedback 100% makes them appear moreso honest. But again, I could never buy coins that expensive without good photos or slabbed even from an honest dealer.
Jim
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Why bother getting them graded when people are paying those prices anyway?
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Unless they misdescribed the roll, the return seems unwarranted.
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Not swaying one way or the other. Feedback means a lot to me and his is great. I inquired about, but didn't buy, a coin and asked if it would 64 or 65. He replied likely 63 at best. Sent a pic of an old fashioned safe stuffed with Morgan bags. Just like the ones I handled back in the 60's. Don't know if he is selling personal or consignment or bought them outright but I do think he's legit. He's sure doing business on ebay.
bob
Edited: I see he now posts the same safe pic. When he first began selling these there was no pics sans coins.
15,800+ feedbacks, none negative. None neutral.
His 1921 Peace dollars from a few weeks back (a separate thread was started on those here) looked too good to be true too yet they've all received positive feedback from happy buyers.
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if all those coins were mine, they all would be in pcgs holders
Pcgs thanks you. But that doesn't mean you'd make any more money.
Without regard to this particular seller, here’s one major shortfall with feedback: Positives can be from highly knowledgeable, happy buyers. But the feedback can just as easily be from clueless buyers, who mistakenly think they’ve gotten bargains, when in fact, they’ve buried themselves in copies, problem coins and over-graded coins. I’ve seen sellers of such coins, who had 100% feedback. They were smart enough to allow hassle-free returns, in order to help maintain their feedback score.
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Those photos just look off, like they are masking possible flaws. The luster looks "juiced" too.
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i bet there are some population one coins in those auctions, i think they are leaving money on the table
He has 3 Trade dollars listed as Choice Unc. that look AU58 - 60/61 at best. I think the pics are good enough to make fair judgement on most of their coins.
@braddick "15,800+ feedbacks, none negative. None neutral."
The seller has 63 revised feedback, you don't revise positive feedback. The seller has 63 less than positive feedback.
You also don't revise feedback when you have not been satisfied.
IMO, these items are from the PRoC and also whizzed and A-toned.
Have just sent this email to the seller:
Good morning
impressive stash of coins you have.
would you please post one or two pictures of the original bag also showing its seal please?
I do collect bank original old mint bags and their seals besides Canadian coins
Thank you
H
let's see what he comes back with
think about it, such a bag would be worth some interesting money to a collector
Why would you whiz a PRC counterfeit?
and, WHY not? at a cost of 2-5 dollars...
to mislead!! and distract from the origin and make it look more interesting .
You asked for something that even if provided, wouldn’t prove much of anything.
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Interestingly enough it was TDN who started the first thread about seller has a lot of uncirculated rolls
I think on that one some thought the photos were juiced
maybe you guys only think inside the box.
he says he has original bags.... let's see these or, do you think they went into the garbage can?
If he provides them fine, if not , he is either a fool or does not have them or never had them.
the we / you can draw your own conclusions.
would you dump a CC or other from that time, original bag?
I will post his answer if and when he does answer.
Maybe we don’t only think inside the box. My point was that with a bit of effort, someone can provide pictures of bags. But that doesn’t mean he has them or that they have anything to do with particular coins being offered for sale.
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not going to continue this.
as I said , I post his answers.
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If he provides a photo, how do you know he took it himself of a bag he actually owns?
And even if it is hyperbolic, that didn't mean the coins are anything other than what he advertised: unc Morgans.
Took me 30 seconds to find a picture of a canvas bag on the internet.
Agree and it is an example of great customer service.
The 63 revised could be an example of how the coins are not properly described and the photos are overexposed.
The Revised feedback doesn't show Removed feedback so the number could be higher.
And before you say "ebay would only remove feedback from a buyer that was causing a problem or feedback violation" please keep in mind how easy it is to get ebay to remove a less than favorable feedback. A seller that has learned how to work ebay's system and has a high volume has no problem getting feedback removed.
No doubt that those images have been manipulated.
He has pictures of the bags right in the listings. You may have to turn in your inspector gadget decoder ring.
Some sellers develop a following from inexperienced collectors that think they are getting a great deal. They do not realize they were wrong until getting some coins graded or when they try to sell their coins ... sometimes many years after their purchases. I try to stay away from those sellers.
Can you say juiced.
The LaVere Redfield Hoard had a very large number of 1895-S $1's in it, though I'm not sure of the quantity, Up though the early 80's, an upstate-NY collector named Bill Louer used to set up with a bleeping display case full of raw ones.
The above is in no way intended to obscure my emphatic agreement with the quoted statement.
He should ask for a COA.
Not worth even bothering to look at anything from this seller IMHO.
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we can play the "lets spot what's wrong with each coin."
the images make a lot of coins look cleaned to my eyes so i'll look for actual hairlines.
i'll start but i'm not doing all of those coins. just some fir funsies.
1895-s - hairlines and possible smoothing on the cheek.
1901-p polished?
1889-cc not unc, possible light cleaning.
1891-cc, probably just a solid 62/63
1877-s high au, light wipe
1877-p 25c super slider
1892-s possibly whizzed off
1914-d 5c hmm cleaned, retoned? possibly a nice au coin
1876-s seems ok 62
1886-s au something with foreign substance. finger smudges?
1819 probably cleaned, albeit lightly
1857 QC
Every one of the photos looks juiced. Some how they have found a way to make every coin look like "a blazer." Even an 1857 Flying Eagle Cent with rub in the field is "on fire."
With this many raw Gems, you would think this guy would be rushing to the TPGs to maximize his selling prices. He isn't, and that should serve as a warning.
I recently bought a Morgan from this seller because it was a decent VAM not attributed. I was skeptical due to the pics but was pleasantly surprised when I got the coin. Actually much better than I anticipated. Would buy again.
I like this AT dollar which is fresh from a mint bag and has toning that resembles what an album could do, but is not at all consistent with bag toning patterns.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154570923590
Maybe he doesn't know how?
Same seller has a bunch of slabbed coins in his ebay store at https://www.ebay.com/str/canyoncitycoin
Mostly NGC slabs
Mr_Spud
I admit I was curious and went through his listings for Buffalo's (hey it's raining here and it beats doing bills). There are ten Buffalos listed, all from a roll marked Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco. Yet all but one coin is from Denver or Philadelphia. Maybe Mark or the Colonel or someone that knows something about rolls would tell me that this is perfectly normal but I would have assumed there would be more S Mint coins in such a roll.
Just my opinion, but it looks a lot like some GSC listings that have been discussed here ad infinitum. GSC always had good feedback ratings too.
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That 1880 dollar is a complete piece of junk. I hope that it's an 1880-S so that whoever created this monster did not ruin a decent coin with some scarcity to it.
Ebay will now delete negative feedbacks for higher volume sellers through their "concierge" desk, so 100% positive feedback may not be indicative of the reality.
I would not trust high value coins that are uncertified. No other auction company permits that. If sellers don't have the patience for submitting to the top two services there are the other two, at least they screen out problem coins usually.
"Buyers" appear to be the same dozen or so leaving crazy feedback:
"These coins are incredible - this seller is gonna break me because all these coins “from rolls” or bags are legit. I plan to keep buying from this seller he / she has the best silver dollars on eBay. These coins are as nice as they appear in the pics and they are all near gem or gem - unbelievable. May take out a second mortgage..."
If I buy one, will it glow like that? Pretty neat, I think.
