no criticism intended (including self-criticism), but I feel worse and worse spending tons of money on anything unnecessary when so many people are struggling for the basics
@Dave99B said: @MOS0231 Yes, I prefer to collect a complete series, in a specific grade. I like to complete sets, so this limits me to a degree on which series I can choose.
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Thanks for the reality check. Glad to hear I'm not the only one that likes complete sets with a consistent look or grade, whether it be high or low.
Collecting by date and mint mark. I still do it, but it's not the driving force it was at one point. Type collecting world coins is much more interesting to me.
For me, building sets in Dansco Albums. I have some (the current cents, nickels, dimes, quarters,halves and dollars that I add the new releases each year)
Although I collect almost anything related to Liberty Nickels, the most fun I ever had was building a Large Cent Dansco set. Searching out the types listed in the album. That was a long time ago now (sold the near complete set in 2003)
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@mirabela said:
Now, though, the thought of having to image things, list them, communicate with people, package something up and ship it is usually enough for me to not bother listing anything to begin with. I've got enough things I ought to list to buy another boat with the proceeds, if I ever get around to it, but it just seems like such a bore.
This is enough of a reason not to buy a large volume of low value coins I really don't like that much, tedious administrative boredom. Losing money on most of it (the norm) makes it even worse.
Over the years I priced myself right out of collecting. I wanted the nicer, best stuff, and just dont have funds to fork over 5-6 figures on everycoin.
Try “the dark side.” I now collect British from about 900 to the present and imperial Roman coins. Yes, there have been a couple of low 5 figure coins, but I could have passed on them. Most pieces are priced well below that, and have fascinating histories.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
I can't say it fits into the "no longer enjoy". It's more a frustration that as my tastes and knowledge have evolved, the coins I wish to own are more expensive. For example, I love early copper, but the higher standard I have for a new piece for inclusion in my collection and the general uptick in their market value makes it frustrating because I don't have the resources to pay the freight.
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@Overdate said:
Buying coins online. I pretty much stopped when I began being charged sales tax.
All you need to do to avoid sales tax by some companies is to get a resale certificate.
All you need to do, in general, not to be charged sales tax is to move to a jurisdiction in which sales tax is not due on coins, or whatever you wish not to pay taxes on. Another option is to elect officials who will change the laws that you don't like. I'm so sick of people complaining of online vendors collecting taxes that their duly elected representatives have mandated they collect.
First of all, I wasn't complaining. The OP asked "Is there a part of coin collecting you no longer enjoy?" and I responded appropriately. Second, I wasn't blaming the online vendors. Third, moving just to avoid sales tax is not a reasonable option. (Also, many people in no-tax jurisdictions have reported being charged sales tax anyway.) And fourth, voting as an individual is not a meaningful method of changing the laws, since my lone vote will not affect the outcome. (I still vote, but only to make a statement.)
It used to be fun to buy from the mint. With all of the nonsense of the captchas, proving you’re human and beating the Bots, I find it more annoying than fun.
Doing anything coin related on eBay is just too risky with all the whiners and the threat of returns and the fees. My G-d, man, the fees! Not to mention the counterfeit slabs that are around.
The only good way to buy a coin is in person. I miss the days where a raw coin was valued. Most people won’t buy a coin, especially the better dates unless they are certified.
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Over the years I priced myself right out of collecting. I wanted the nicer, best stuff, and just dont have funds to fork over 5-6 figures on everycoin.
Try “the dark side.” I now collect British from about 900 to the present and imperial Roman coins. Yes, there have been a couple of low 5 figure coins, but I could have passed on them. Most pieces are priced well below that, and have fascinating histories.
Agree! Switch from US to British a few years ago and haven't looked back. Way more interesting than coins with the same president on them for over 100 years. Of course Victoria and QEII have been on coins for a long time, but at least Victoria has three obverse changes and QEII five to keep it interesting.
@tcollects said:
no criticism intended (including self-criticism), but I feel worse and worse spending tons of money on anything unnecessary when so many people are struggling for the basics
@tcollects said:
no criticism intended (including self-criticism), but I feel worse and worse spending tons of money on anything unnecessary when so many people are struggling for the basics
I feel the same way.
Ya'll guys could always go and hand out money to strangers, if it will make you feel better
No regrets about the hobby for me of course I am on the receiving end.
@mirabela said:
Buying and selling -- especially selling. I used to actually enjoy these transactions, and I bought and sold many hundreds of coins mainly in the $20 - $300 bread-and-butter collector range. The interactions with random fellow hobbyists through the Internet and then through delivery of funds and something cool for their collection, or mine, brought me pleasure. Now, though, the thought of having to image things, list them, communicate with people, package something up and ship it is usually enough for me to not bother listing anything to begin with. I've got enough things I ought to list to buy another boat with the proceeds, if I ever get around to it, but it just seems like such a bore.
You can always give your collection to a dealer or a business like GC, HA, or SB that will take care of that for you.
@tcollects said:
no criticism intended (including self-criticism), but I feel worse and worse spending tons of money on anything unnecessary when so many people are struggling for the basics
I feel the same way.
Ya'll guys could always go and hand out money to strangers, if it will make you feel better.
The excitement is still the same as when I first got back into collecting 6 or so years ago. I made a few friends along the way and having almost as much fun with it as I have at any point in my life. Nothing will ever replace the years of going through grandpas coins with him and I’ll never forget that. I love this hobby for a multitude of reasons.
I guess I’m lucky I didn’t have the financial means to know what I’m missing from the “good old days.” 30-60 buck coins were more my flavor last time around.
This may sound terrible but, the part I dislike the most is helping the new collector. Don’t get me wrong, I’m talking about a small but seems like it’s getting bigger portion. It’s the new collector that does not want to do any research, learning on their own. They have a high power magnification app for their phone and all they ask is this a double die (should be doubled die) or what kind of error is this ( usually just years of circulation or PMD) No effort is put into finding the answer on their own and it’s so easy with the amount of information available online. Then when they are given the answer they question your knowledge or are told to send it in for grading by another new collector. It just seems there are more everyday. Sorry if I sound like a grumpy old man. I still love talking coins with new collectors that want to honestly learn.
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@privatecoin said:
The US mint. Insane prices and a web site that runs as efficiently as a rickshaw.
There is a story in this week’s “Coin World” that the mint is going to auction off 500 gold and silver eagle four piece sets that are to be personally struck by U.S. Mint Director, David Ryder. Why anyone would pay premium for that is beyond my comprehension. If he were in front of me, I would give him a piece of my mind.
He has raised the prices for all mint products to ridiculous levels. What used to be priced at “young numismatist” levels (e.g. the current commemorative half dollar is priced at $40 when it used to be under $10) is now way out of their range. Mint medals, which used to be $39 are now priced at $150. The 2021 silver Proof has three less silver quarters in it, but the price is the same. He has done all of this in one fell swoop, not on a gradual basis. Yet the order processing function at the mint website is still the pits. His tenure is a disaster.
Bid in an auction because he pressed the activation button on a coin press? If I do that, you will be free to cart me off the looney bin.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
For me, it's how much the hobby has been geared towards financial return. Collecting should be about doing something you enjoy, having fun, and being happy with your new acquisitions.
Also, with the advent of internet technologies and as someone that tends to reinvent the wheel for digital representations of coins, I really want to see how far and accurately the hobby can be digitized. I'm thinking the likes of virtual coin shows.
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How many ball bearings in that one? I have a penn mag 525 high speed for shark fishing off beach
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@Mgarmy said:
How many ball bearings in that one? I have a penn mag 525 high speed for shark fishing off beach
Eight Ball Bearings.
This is the reel everyone is recommending I get and I tried it and it does cast forever. Now I should be able to cast into the "foamers" which are Blue Fin Tuna in a feeding frenzy.
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I still love my coins, coin shows and coin buddies but the plethora of negative posts has me more and more disinterested in coin forums.
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no criticism intended (including self-criticism), but I feel worse and worse spending tons of money on anything unnecessary when so many people are struggling for the basics
Thanks for the reality check. Glad to hear I'm not the only one that likes complete sets with a consistent look or grade, whether it be high or low.
Collecting by date and mint mark. I still do it, but it's not the driving force it was at one point. Type collecting world coins is much more interesting to me.
For me, building sets in Dansco Albums. I have some (the current cents, nickels, dimes, quarters,halves and dollars that I add the new releases each year)
Although I collect almost anything related to Liberty Nickels, the most fun I ever had was building a Large Cent Dansco set. Searching out the types listed in the album. That was a long time ago now (sold the near complete set in 2003)
I have gotten really picky, but like has been said before, it's not necessarily a bad thing, just less often with the newps.
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This is enough of a reason not to buy a large volume of low value coins I really don't like that much, tedious administrative boredom. Losing money on most of it (the norm) makes it even worse.
Yolo
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/date-sets/hashtags-prefect-coin-grading-service-1879/album/7621
Try “the dark side.” I now collect British from about 900 to the present and imperial Roman coins. Yes, there have been a couple of low 5 figure coins, but I could have passed on them. Most pieces are priced well below that, and have fascinating histories.
I can't say it fits into the "no longer enjoy". It's more a frustration that as my tastes and knowledge have evolved, the coins I wish to own are more expensive. For example, I love early copper, but the higher standard I have for a new piece for inclusion in my collection and the general uptick in their market value makes it frustrating because I don't have the resources to pay the freight.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
First of all, I wasn't complaining. The OP asked "Is there a part of coin collecting you no longer enjoy?" and I responded appropriately. Second, I wasn't blaming the online vendors. Third, moving just to avoid sales tax is not a reasonable option. (Also, many people in no-tax jurisdictions have reported being charged sales tax anyway.) And fourth, voting as an individual is not a meaningful method of changing the laws, since my lone vote will not affect the outcome. (I still vote, but only to make a statement.)
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I could not come with anything.
I have lived and worked my whole life in various hobbies and there's nothing better.
I make money in hobbies to spend money in other hobbies and live life.
It used to be fun to buy from the mint. With all of the nonsense of the captchas, proving you’re human and beating the Bots, I find it more annoying than fun.
Doing anything coin related on eBay is just too risky with all the whiners and the threat of returns and the fees. My G-d, man, the fees! Not to mention the counterfeit slabs that are around.
The only good way to buy a coin is in person. I miss the days where a raw coin was valued. Most people won’t buy a coin, especially the better dates unless they are certified.
Buyers groups. Seems like every mint coin is now a must have instant sellout, no matter what it is.
Agree! Switch from US to British a few years ago and haven't looked back. Way more interesting than coins with the same president on them for over 100 years. Of course Victoria and QEII have been on coins for a long time, but at least Victoria has three obverse changes and QEII five to keep it interesting.
I feel the same way.
Ya'll guys could always go and hand out money to strangers, if it will make you feel better
No regrets about the hobby for me of course I am on the receiving end.
The US mint. Insane prices and a web site that runs as efficiently as a rickshaw.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
You can always give your collection to a dealer or a business like GC, HA, or SB that will take care of that for you.
Go get your boat!
yes, there is:
way too many cheats and crooks on Ebay.. and Feebay is doing NOTHING
I do. And it does.
Trying to plan my box of 20...
The excitement is still the same as when I first got back into collecting 6 or so years ago. I made a few friends along the way and having almost as much fun with it as I have at any point in my life. Nothing will ever replace the years of going through grandpas coins with him and I’ll never forget that. I love this hobby for a multitude of reasons.
I guess I’m lucky I didn’t have the financial means to know what I’m missing from the “good old days.” 30-60 buck coins were more my flavor last time around.
This may sound terrible but, the part I dislike the most is helping the new collector. Don’t get me wrong, I’m talking about a small but seems like it’s getting bigger portion. It’s the new collector that does not want to do any research, learning on their own. They have a high power magnification app for their phone and all they ask is this a double die (should be doubled die) or what kind of error is this ( usually just years of circulation or PMD) No effort is put into finding the answer on their own and it’s so easy with the amount of information available online. Then when they are given the answer they question your knowledge or are told to send it in for grading by another new collector. It just seems there are more everyday. Sorry if I sound like a grumpy old man. I still love talking coins with new collectors that want to honestly learn.
Silverman68, jfoot13, GAB, ricman, Smittys, scrapman1077, RyGuy, Connecticoin, Meltdown, VikingDude, Peaceman, Patches and more.
There is a story in this week’s “Coin World” that the mint is going to auction off 500 gold and silver eagle four piece sets that are to be personally struck by U.S. Mint Director, David Ryder. Why anyone would pay premium for that is beyond my comprehension. If he were in front of me, I would give him a piece of my mind.
He has raised the prices for all mint products to ridiculous levels. What used to be priced at “young numismatist” levels (e.g. the current commemorative half dollar is priced at $40 when it used to be under $10) is now way out of their range. Mint medals, which used to be $39 are now priced at $150. The 2021 silver Proof has three less silver quarters in it, but the price is the same. He has done all of this in one fell swoop, not on a gradual basis. Yet the order processing function at the mint website is still the pits. His tenure is a disaster.
Bid in an auction because he pressed the activation button on a coin press? If I do that, you will be free to cart me off the looney bin.
For me, it's how much the hobby has been geared towards financial return. Collecting should be about doing something you enjoy, having fun, and being happy with your new acquisitions.
Also, with the advent of internet technologies and as someone that tends to reinvent the wheel for digital representations of coins, I really want to see how far and accurately the hobby can be digitized. I'm thinking the likes of virtual coin shows.
Custom album maker and numismatic photographer.
Need a personalized album made? Design it on the website below and I'll build it for you.
https://www.donahuenumismatics.com/.
Hobbies funding hobbies.
I just had to buy a $400 high end casting reel. Sold a nature photo and a coin to buy it.
Still need to match it up with a pole.
Can't wait to catch a gamefish on it.
How many ball bearings in that one? I have a penn mag 525 high speed for shark fishing off beach
100% positive transactions with SurfinxHI, bigole, 1madman, collectorcoins, proofmorgan, Luke Marshall, silver pop, golden egg, point five zero,coin22lover, alohagary, blaircountycoin,joebb21
Eight Ball Bearings.
This is the reel everyone is recommending I get and I tried it and it does cast forever. Now I should be able to cast into the "foamers" which are Blue Fin Tuna in a feeding frenzy.