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Will some of the 2021 Morgans be “prooflike”?

MKUltra24MKUltra24 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭✭
edited August 10, 2021 4:22PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Does anyone happen to know if the first 2021 Morgans will be prooflike due to fresh polished dies?

I’ve seen old school PL Morgans like this and apparently the Mint didn’t make those intentionally as proofs so I’m wondering if this will occur with the new ones? If not why?

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  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, unless they have to quality control. They should all look alike, but the U.S. Mint can't be consistent. If these were done by the RCM or RAM or Perth or Austrian Mint they would all look alike.

    thefinn
  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2021 4:30PM

    I think they will have the look of the ASE for the finish.

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  • MKUltra24MKUltra24 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭✭

    @thefinn said:
    No, unless they have to quality control. They should all look alike, but the U.S. Mint can't be consistent. If these were done by the RCM or RAM or Perth or Austrian Mint they would all look alike.

    I just bought some stuff from the Australian Perth Mint lol!

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MKUltra24 said:

    @thefinn said:
    No, unless they have to quality control. They should all look alike, but the U.S. Mint can't be consistent. If these were done by the RCM or RAM or Perth or Austrian Mint they would all look alike.

    I just bought some stuff from the Australian Perth Mint lol!

    The Perth Mint is striking Silver Eagles? :D

  • MKUltra24MKUltra24 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @MKUltra24 said:

    @thefinn said:
    No, unless they have to quality control. They should all look alike, but the U.S. Mint can't be consistent. If these were done by the RCM or RAM or Perth or Austrian Mint they would all look alike.

    I just bought some stuff from the Australian Perth Mint lol!

    The Perth Mint is striking Silver Eagles? :D

    Nah that’s the only non-Australian.

    The Platypus is a 2 oz Perth Mint product and the Dragon is the 1st of a new “Chinese Myths & Legends” series.

    No idea why Australia is doing a Chinese theme. They should’ve minted a coin with a man standing on the beach next to a barbecue tossing a shrimp onto it:

    To keep it more Australian xD

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a fair question about new dies, but for modern era collector coins I think the dies are heavily prepared and monitored. The downside is that you probably won't see any proof like coins, but the upside is that you shouldn't see any coins with die deterioration.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Australia is pretty close to Asia and I think it is a popular spot for Asians.

    In any case, nice coins.

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MKUltra24 said:
    Does anyone happen to know if the first 2021 Morgans will be prooflike due to fresh polished dies?
    [...]

    I agree with @TurtleCat.

    All of the Morgan and Peace dollars come with an "uncirculated" finish.
    For example, here is a screenshot of the "specifications" for 21XC:

    Link

    Here is how the Mint describes the finish on an "uncirculated" coin:

    Link

  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it would be nice that there weren't small defects in the fields of proof coins......

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe these coins will be very uniform in appearance/finish. Just due to quantities, there should be no visible signs of die wear on the coins. Cheers, RickO

  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MKUltra24 said:
    No idea why Australia is doing a Chinese theme. They should’ve minted a coin with a man standing on the beach next to a barbecue tossing a shrimp onto it:

    I'm guessing the Australian Mint wants the Chinese customer's money and minting an issue with a dragon on it means $$.

    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reason early morgans come like that is because of how they basined the dies prior to production. That's why you get those awesome cameo prooflike/deep mirror coins.

    I doubt any of these will be PL/DMPL, but kinda hope some are. We'll see.

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It happened in 2019 explorer and discovery set. And the Apollo sets

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,095 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The dies will be prepared like modern commemoratives. Luster, frost, and mirrors as we known them for the Morgans will not be in the cards.

  • MKUltra24MKUltra24 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    The reason early morgans come like that is because of how they basined the dies prior to production. That's why you get those awesome cameo prooflike/deep mirror coins.

    I doubt any of these will be PL/DMPL, but kinda hope some are. We'll see.

    Same here! I wish the US Mint would make these interesting by letting PLs and errors and things like that make it to the customer.

    It definitely adds to the hobby. Like the 1955 Doubled Die cent is a very popular coin but if the Mint followed protocol they all would’ve been melted down.

    Or they could’ve maybe had a Mint Director signed COA on a random 100 of them. Something like that. It’s not like it would cost them anything.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 11, 2021 10:58PM

    @MKUltra24 said:
    Does anyone happen to know if the first 2021 Morgans will be prooflike due to fresh polished dies?

    I’ve seen old school PL Morgans like this and apparently the Mint didn’t make those intentionally as proofs so I’m wondering if this will occur with the new ones? If not why?

    I would hope so given the following:

    Mint Chief Engraver Joseph Menna said:
    you get better results than the originals

    I'm guessing guess he's not thinking of DMPL, but the above moderns give me hope!

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