What most people don't realize, unlike US coins, you cannot just go to a big coin show and buy a coin like this. You have to wait for one to become available and then pay what it takes to own it. (Yes, even at twice what it last sold for if that's what it takes and you really want it.)
The last one of these that I remember being available (which is the same coin you show above) was over 14 years ago and it hammered for $10k. And that collector owned that coin for 21 years.
Edited to add: And waiting for one to become available usually means waiting for someone to pass away.
I bought this Gortyna half stater after waiting for nearly 10 years:
The bulk of my wantlist is comprised of "long wait" coins, either due to rarity or me being overly picky. I don't think it's necessarily a bad approach, although it's disappointing to only periodically get new boxes in the mail.
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There are a handful of German States sede vacante talers which will be a good challenge to find. Perhaps not rare in the purest definition, but they certainly attract attention when they are available.
@SmEagle1795 said:
I bought this Gortyna half stater after waiting for nearly 10 years:
The bulk of my wantlist is comprised of "long wait" coins, either due to rarity or me being overly picky. I don't think it's necessarily a bad approach, although it's disappointing to only periodically get new boxes in the mail.
I've been waiting many years to get the following :
Atelier de Trevoux
AN . M . LVD . PRINC . SVPRE . DOMBA, Buste drapé de 3/4 a droite
(rose) DNS (trefle) ADIVTOR (rose) A (rose) ET . RED . MEVS . 1665 Ecu d'Orleans couronné
13.44 gr
Ref : Divo Dombes # 221 (le deuxième exemplaire connu), PA # 5219v,
The Dombes principality is a small region of France, not far from Lyon, which had the privilege of issuing their own currencies during the XVI° and XVII° centuries.
Anne Marie Louise de Bourbon, AKA La Grande Mademoiselle, was born to Gaston d'Orleans and Marie de Montpensier in 1627 CE. A few days after her birth her mother passed away and she became sole heir of the principality of Dombes. Until she'd been emancipated by her cousin Louis XIV "Le Roi Soleil" in 1650 CE, her father (and Louis XIV's uncle) Gaston d'Orleans ruled the Dombes as regent.
For those interested in reading a little more here's the Wikipedia page on the subject of the Dombes principality (in english) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dombes
Anne Marie Louise coinage is abundant, especially 1/12 ecu also known as Luigini, which have been shamelessely copied by other rulers as they were very popular in the whole Middle East at the moment, purportedly because they featured a female bust on the obverse. Other than that are liards, a rather crude billon coinage, usually struck on short flans (finding one with complete legends and date is quite unusual) that you can find by the million.
The demi écu is quite a big chunck of silver (size between half-dollar and dollar at 33/33.5 mm) with an impressive look to it. Only five years of striking are known to exist, with very low mintage, according to the recorded surviving examples : the 1673 demi ecu is an easy one. I think at least one or two hundreds of them survive nowadays. All the others known to exist are key dates : I assume a total of about 20 examples are known for 1665 (2), 1669 (<10), 1672 (<5) and 1674 (2).
I started the series in 2004, and although it's a small one, I had to wait 17 years before I completed it. they're so rare I doubt I will ever upgrade any of them...
I have a list of of specific Lima and Potosi pillars that I would like to buy. Most I I do not own but a low proportion are upgrades. Most have not come up for sale to my knowledge, since I have bene actively looking. A few did and I was not aware of it, at the time.
Any will do but of those I have seen before, one is the 1771 Peru 4R which sold on eBay the same day I bought my 1770 Bolivia 4R in March 2002. I should have bought both or the other one but did not want to spend the money. It sold for $411 and I'd grade it a better XF to mid-AU.
@WCC said:
I have a list of of specific Lima and Potosi pillars that I would like to buy. Most I I do not own but a low proportion are upgrades. Most have not come up for sale to my knowledge, since I have bene actively looking. A few did and I was not aware of it, at the time.
Any will do but of those I have seen before, one is the 1771 Peru 4R which sold on eBay the same day I bought my 1770 Bolivia 4R in March 2002. I should have bought both or the other one but did not want to spend the money. It sold for $411 and I'd grade it a better XF to mid-AU.
@pruebas said:
What most people don't realize, unlike US coins, you cannot just go to a big coin show and buy a coin like this. You have to wait for one to become available and then pay what it takes to own it. (Yes, even at twice what it last sold for if that's what it takes and you really want it.)
The last one of these that I remember being available (which is the same coin you show above) was over 14 years ago and it hammered for $10k. And that collector owned that coin for 21 years.
Edited to add: And waiting for one to become available usually means waiting for someone to pass away.
I know that but was just wondering what coin or 2 coins people are waiting for to come for sale. After a full year collecting Mexican coins I realize that you can't just call someone and have them find what you want right away at least not for many many coins. I am OK with that makes it fun.
A couple came up in the most recent Herbert Gruen auction. I was handily outbid. Maybe I'll have some more money to spend in a few years when I get another opportunity.
1845 halfpenny. Someone sold me / sent me an altered 1855 a few years ago but made it right on the return (and then some) - honest person left it up to subordinates to vet incoming material.
Finally got a decent one at a Spink auction about 5 months after the fake incident. Been looking for 30 years for something other than a date only version or the very nice Petition Crown piece.
@pruebas said:
What most people don't realize, unlike US coins, you cannot just go to a big coin show and buy a coin like this. You have to wait for one to become available and then pay what it takes to own it. (Yes, even at twice what it last sold for if that's what it takes and you really want it.)
The last one of these that I remember being available (which is the same coin you show above) was over 14 years ago and it hammered for $10k. And that collector owned that coin for 21 years.
Edited to add: And waiting for one to become available usually means waiting for someone to pass away.
This resonates with me. Especially as someone who works at a coin shop. World stuff is less collected than US yes, but there's lots of it that's less available as well. Makes for a strange market sometimes.
I don't have any coins I am waiting for at the moment that aren't on the market. I do have lots I am looking for in nice condition and that feels like a similar issue at times as well.
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I have not been a collector long enough in the series I collect to give any input myself.
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What most people don't realize, unlike US coins, you cannot just go to a big coin show and buy a coin like this. You have to wait for one to become available and then pay what it takes to own it. (Yes, even at twice what it last sold for if that's what it takes and you really want it.)
The last one of these that I remember being available (which is the same coin you show above) was over 14 years ago and it hammered for $10k. And that collector owned that coin for 21 years.
Edited to add: And waiting for one to become available usually means waiting for someone to pass away.
I bought this Gortyna half stater after waiting for nearly 10 years:
The bulk of my wantlist is comprised of "long wait" coins, either due to rarity or me being overly picky. I don't think it's necessarily a bad approach, although it's disappointing to only periodically get new boxes in the mail.
There are a handful of German States sede vacante talers which will be a good challenge to find. Perhaps not rare in the purest definition, but they certainly attract attention when they are available.
Hildesheim 1688 taler

Hildesheim 1724 taler

Paderborn 1688 taler

Trier 1715 taler

Munster 1688 taler

Munster 1683 taler

A gem : I will never feel tired of seeing it !
How about that 1893 S morgan on Great Collections MS 67??? Way out of my budget
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I've been waiting many years to get the following :
Atelier de Trevoux
AN . M . LVD . PRINC . SVPRE . DOMBA, Buste drapé de 3/4 a droite
(rose) DNS (trefle) ADIVTOR (rose) A (rose) ET . RED . MEVS . 1665 Ecu d'Orleans couronné
13.44 gr
Ref : Divo Dombes # 221 (le deuxième exemplaire connu), PA # 5219v,
The Dombes principality is a small region of France, not far from Lyon, which had the privilege of issuing their own currencies during the XVI° and XVII° centuries.
Anne Marie Louise de Bourbon, AKA La Grande Mademoiselle, was born to Gaston d'Orleans and Marie de Montpensier in 1627 CE. A few days after her birth her mother passed away and she became sole heir of the principality of Dombes. Until she'd been emancipated by her cousin Louis XIV "Le Roi Soleil" in 1650 CE, her father (and Louis XIV's uncle) Gaston d'Orleans ruled the Dombes as regent.
For those interested in reading a little more here's the Wikipedia page on the subject of the Dombes principality (in english) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dombes
Anne Marie Louise coinage is abundant, especially 1/12 ecu also known as Luigini, which have been shamelessely copied by other rulers as they were very popular in the whole Middle East at the moment, purportedly because they featured a female bust on the obverse. Other than that are liards, a rather crude billon coinage, usually struck on short flans (finding one with complete legends and date is quite unusual) that you can find by the million.
The demi écu is quite a big chunck of silver (size between half-dollar and dollar at 33/33.5 mm) with an impressive look to it. Only five years of striking are known to exist, with very low mintage, according to the recorded surviving examples : the 1673 demi ecu is an easy one. I think at least one or two hundreds of them survive nowadays. All the others known to exist are key dates : I assume a total of about 20 examples are known for 1665 (2), 1669 (<10), 1672 (<5) and 1674 (2).
I started the series in 2004, and although it's a small one, I had to wait 17 years before I completed it. they're so rare I doubt I will ever upgrade any of them...
An Arequipa Sunface 8R,
Latin American Collection
I have a list of of specific Lima and Potosi pillars that I would like to buy. Most I I do not own but a low proportion are upgrades. Most have not come up for sale to my knowledge, since I have bene actively looking. A few did and I was not aware of it, at the time.
Any will do but of those I have seen before, one is the 1771 Peru 4R which sold on eBay the same day I bought my 1770 Bolivia 4R in March 2002. I should have bought both or the other one but did not want to spend the money. It sold for $411 and I'd grade it a better XF to mid-AU.
$1500-2000 coin today
Latin American Collection
I know that but was just wondering what coin or 2 coins people are waiting for to come for sale. After a full year collecting Mexican coins I realize that you can't just call someone and have them find what you want right away at least not for many many coins. I am OK with that makes it fun.
NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers
Any images of what it looks like or they look like?
NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers
Latin American Collection
Canada Silver $1 1966 SMALL BEADS

A couple came up in the most recent Herbert Gruen auction. I was handily outbid. Maybe I'll have some more money to spend in a few years when I get another opportunity.
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The 1984 version of this ( 4 proof 1984 known)

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I absolutely love the design, and seem to remember the '84 coming up some years ago but not the venue - good luck on that one!
Well, just Love coins, period.
Thank you, I have never seen one, but maybe, who knows..
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1845 halfpenny. Someone sold me / sent me an altered 1855 a few years ago but made it right on the return (and then some) - honest person left it up to subordinates to vet incoming material.
Finally got a decent one at a Spink auction about 5 months after the fake incident. Been looking for 30 years for something other than a date only version or the very nice Petition Crown piece.
This resonates with me. Especially as someone who works at a coin shop. World stuff is less collected than US yes, but there's lots of it that's less available as well. Makes for a strange market sometimes.
I don't have any coins I am waiting for at the moment that aren't on the market. I do have lots I am looking for in nice condition and that feels like a similar issue at times as well.
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