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Is there another series that is similar to Liberty Seated Dollars?

CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

I have just one coin (excluding 1870s) left to complete my Liberty seated dollar collection. I am dead set on finishing off my SLD set but finding the right coin that will fit into the set will take time and money. While I wait and save for the last coin needed for completion I want to begin researching the next series I will tackle.

I’m looking for some ideas on potential series to collect. Im pretty much open to anything (gold, silver,copper) as long as it’s US coinage but I do prefer business strikes. Collecting a type set is really not an option for me… I’m just not built like that. I am hoping to find a series similar to Seated Dollars. Here are a few attributes I hope to find in a new series. I am really attracted to low mintages and survival rates. I also really want a series that is challenging to find original PQ coins. I would like another series that has very low CAC approval numbers. I am "comfortable" with the majority of the set being 4 figure coins and a few 5 figures if necessary. But I’d be just as happy with coins under a thousand… I would like to be able to complete the set in a 5-10 year period.

If your working on a set currently or have done one in the past that you think might be a good fit please let me know.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS Early Walkers fit your criteria 100%:

    -Low mintages and survival rates.
    -Near impossible to find in original condition.
    -Four to five figure coins.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pre Civil War Liberty Quarter Eagles or Half Eagles.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seated Liberty Half Dollars, quarters, dimes and half dimes? Also 20 cent pieces.

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess if CAC is the primary must have filter, I’d go study the pops there to discover my next collecting objective.

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  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gold Dollars. 3 types to choose from, or you can work on all three. Low mintages and good value.

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  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Trade dollars- I did a set of these and basically finished the set within a year or really trying. They were sweet but not quite as challenging as I want my next series to be…

    Walkers- I never considered walkers to be rare but I’ll definitely look into them.

    Other Seated series- SLQs have been recommended to me by a couple of buddy’s. I’m not overly thrilled about doing another Seated series and was kind of looking for a new look. But I’ll have to research them and the other denominations a bit more before making a decision.

    Gold- classic head half eagles are intriguing… have never thought about doing Gold dollars or quarter eagles but will look at the pops and see where that takes me.

    Please keep the suggestions coming…

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gobrecht dollars

  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No motto gold eagles.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    Seated Liberty Half Dollars, quarters, dimes and half dimes? Also 20 cent pieces.

    I was thinking the same thing, except for the 20C. The contemporary gold seem to be the next closest. A higher proportion of generically scarce dates in a long running series.

    I have never looked at CAC populations but find it hard to believe that Trade dollar business strikes are even close as scarce. From the 20th century, a few of the Indian Head eagles and Saints are actually scarce or rare but most of the coins aren't. None of the other series are even close to Seated dollars either.

  • Higher end Barber Halves. Always thought a type set of 1790's coins would be neat.

  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A second set of Seated Dollars.

  • PickwickjrPickwickjr Posts: 556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulation on your Seated dollar collection crusty. What a collection you’ve built!

    Draped bust gold 1798-1807 half eagles XF/CAC

  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You guys have given me lots of ideas to look into and research. Hopefully by the time I go to long beach in September (if CA doesn’t lock us down again) something will call my name more than others and I’ll know what the next goal is. Thanks again for all the suggestions.

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d agree that nicely mint state barber quarters or halves would be very challenging to accomplish. While not all are scarce in survivor rate overall, the survivor rate of quality mint state pieces is very low.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crusty.... Congratulations on your Seated Liberty collection (with one to go). Good suggestions above, I cannot add any others. Let us know what the new challenge will be for you. Cheers, RickO

  • Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bust dimes and Bust Quarters

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Silver trimes

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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I second the bust quarters. A pq circ date set will keep you busy for a while.

  • AercusAercus Posts: 381 ✭✭✭✭

    A nice draped bust dollar set would be a challenging project.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aercus said:
    A nice draped bust dollar set would be a challenging project.

    this i like ^

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Classic Head large cents with choice surfaces (and ignore CAC)

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  • FrankHFrankH Posts: 982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FLOWING hair dollars.
    Should be as challenging as the seated dollars.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinxman said:
    Higher end Barber Halves. Always thought a type set of 1790's coins would be neat.

    agreed

    Frank

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aercus said:
    A nice draped bust dollar set would be a challenging project.

    Agree. This would be my other suggestion.

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    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some good suggestions so far, I will add to the potential list draped bust heraldic eagle half dollars, which fit your criteria of low mintage (1801, 1802), and challenging to find PQ coins. The halves are a lot less expensive then bust dollars and actually more scarce except 1806 and 1807. When complete, you can expand to major varieties and/or the 1794-95 flowing hair half dollar series.

    This is the highest PCGS graded 1803 O.102 AU50, CAC sticker and I got it for under $3K - it went for over $5K about 12 years ago:

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  • ElmhurstElmhurst Posts: 795 ✭✭✭

    Any opinions on $3 gold ?

  • JRGeyerJRGeyer Posts: 150 ✭✭✭

    Just started Seated Half-Dimes. I do not believe it is as challenging as Seated Dollars, but I've enjoyed it nonetheless. Low survival numbers in MS.

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seated Halves are everything you love about dollars but with branch mints. Might be too rare and large, would take at least a decade and bank to complete

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A set of Draped Bust dollars seems to me to be an excellent , and obvious, companion to a set of Seated Liberty dollars

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  • MrweaseluvMrweaseluv Posts: 226 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JRGeyer said:
    Just started Seated Half-Dimes. I do not believe it is as challenging as Seated Dollars, but I've enjoyed it nonetheless. Low survival numbers in MS.

    Yeah I recently started digging into the half dimes... Darn hard to find in MS at prices that don't break the bank :smile:

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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 3, 2021 1:30PM

    @Pickwickjr said:
    Congratulation on your Seated dollar collection crusty. What a collection you’ve built!

    Draped bust gold 1798-1807 half eagles XF/CAC

    You're treading on @coinlieutenant turf :#
    I know a long-time dealer/Redbook contributor for another series working, as a Redbook variety collector, on a non-CAC project at the wholesome unc level for years. Problem starting now is it's very few coins for an inevitably long chase.

    .> @Elmhurst said:

    Any opinions on $3 gold ?

    A great suggestion! A CAC 64 set would be a tremendous challenge. A CAC 63 set would satisfy many of the OP's mintage-rarity and and population-rarity criteria. Anyone seen a '58 or '77 in 63 recently? MS64's must show up every decade (or so)

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  • KindaNewishKindaNewish Posts: 827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Know the feeling. Nearing the finish line on two sets I've been working on for years.
    Trying to find a tough set that I won't have to compete with people far wealthier than me. Maybe Newfoundland $2 or Spanish De Vellon gold.

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elmhurst said:
    Any opinions on $3 gold ?

    I'd only dream of an 1870 S.

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  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You guys are not making it any easier 😂… So many good suggestions here.

    Seated half dimes- I don’t know that I would be able to enjoy such a small coin the way I do Dollars. I’m thinking quarters size is about as small as I’d like to go.

    Bust dollars- I do like the idea of a PQ set in XF-AU . It’s an option but they seem to always be available. I could be wrong but I think I’d be able to finish the set off in a year or two? I’m looking for a longer term project (I think).

    Draped bust $5 gold- Having seen the choice AU set that @Pickwickjr has assembled it is a very strong temptation…

    Seated halves- I believe this set would check all the box’s. Not sure I want to do another seated series though. But it’s definitely an option.

    Bust quarters- I’m intrigued by them and need to do some research. It’s an option…

    $3 gold- Have to research it more?

  • Inspired70Inspired70 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HoledandCreative said:
    A second set of Seated Dollars.

    I tried this….very very hard!!

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crusty Is there anywhere that we can view your set?

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  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2021 3:59AM

    @Walkerfan said:
    @Crusty Is there anywhere that we can view your set?

    I’m not on any of the registry’s. Mainly because I have 5 or 6 that are slabbed by NGC. Maybe at some point I’ll try to cross them? But I’m in no rush…. Ive never been accused of being a great photographer. But here are some of them… This is as good a time as any to say if anyone has a gold cac seated dollar for sale, I highly doubt you’ll find someone willing to pay more for it than I would…. So please offer to me first.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crusty Those are stunning!! <3o:)

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 1846 NGC Gold would be a tough one to lose to crossover.

  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HoledandCreative said:
    That 1846 NGC Gold would be a tough one to lose to crossover.

    Totally agree…. I would not attempt to cross the gold CAC fatty. It’s a date that is available so I would just buy another one.

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    Thank you for entering me in your generous give-away !

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    George II Crowns... exhibit A is my Icon. 10 coin set... 12 if proofs are included. High relief and mintage figures remain a mystery. High grade examples are a challenge. They have something in common in terms of low mintage, low surviving population in a quality state of preservation and real questions as to their commercial success as a circulating coin.

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  • Panda4456Panda4456 Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    @Crusty said:
    I have just one coin (excluding 1870s) left to complete my Liberty seated dollar collection. I am dead set on finishing off my SLD set but finding the right coin that will fit into the set will take time and money. While I wait and save for the last coin needed for completion I want to begin researching the next series I will tackle.

    I’m looking for some ideas on potential series to collect. Im pretty much open to anything (gold, silver,copper) as long as it’s US coinage but I do prefer business strikes. Collecting a type set is really not an option for me… I’m just not built like that. I am hoping to find a series similar to Seated Dollars. Here are a few attributes I hope to find in a new series. I am really attracted to low mintages and survival rates. I also really want a series that is challenging to find original PQ coins. I would like another series that has very low CAC approval numbers. I am "comfortable" with the majority of the set being 4 figure coins and a few 5 figures if necessary. But I’d be just as happy with coins under a thousand… I would like to be able to complete the set in a 5-10 year period.

    If your working on a set currently or have done one in the past that you think might be a good fit please let me know.

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