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gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 2, 2021 1:33PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Any grade opinions?

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  • LazybonesLazybones Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2021 10:43AM

    I see a details coin (scratches).

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2021 10:46AM

    AU53, looks to be retoned over some old hairlines, but not sure if the angled views are helping or hurting the appearance. But pretty much any early walker in AU is a cool find in my book.

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin appears to be on the cusp of PCGS hairline tolerance, so could be AU53, AU50 (netted for the hairlines), or AU Details - Cleaned.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cleaned AU.

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  • ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, appears to have been cleaned with some subsequent re-toning.

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The lines look like they are from circulation. I’d guess 55 from those pics.

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53 I think it will straight grade

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU50/53 Cleaned?

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "AU Tilted"

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2021 12:20PM

    AU - would keep as raw price per CW Trends: $25

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2021 1:53PM

    @Cougar1978 said:
    AU - would keep as raw price per CW Trends: $25

    Lol I’ll pay 10x that right now!

    Edit to add, I assume that was a typo and you meant $250, so my apologies if so….

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  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2021 1:52PM

    @Cougar1978 said:
    AU - would keep as raw price per CW Trends: $25

    1964 edition?

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2021 1:58PM

    I think @Cougar1978 forgot to add a zero after the 25. LOL

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53 or 55. Tough to grade on an angle like that.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Better photos

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The new photos scream "cleaned".

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2021 3:38PM

    @291fifth its the lighting. I take horrible photos. It has mint luster still, although not as much as my 1944 Walker.

    EDIT plus the new photos it is in a 2X2

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    low AU I think

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Different photos but not what I’d call better.
    Not going to get good pics or accurate guesses through a holder.

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53ish

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin 'appears' to be AU... the hairlines in the first picture worry me... Cheers, RickO

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,494 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 30, 2021 10:03AM

    One needs to see this one in hand. The images are just not helping the cause with exception as to lustre. Could it straight grade? Yes... But I want to be on the same playing field as the graders... for whatever service... before offering an opinion.

    edited to add... the second set of pictures adds to the problem. My hope is that the image captures issues associated with coin photography in general and not my knee jerk reaction that the coin was cleaned to the point that a straight grade is not possible. There are some questions with the first set that lead me to think a straight grade maybe optimistic as well. In spite of my bias, I will opine that determining whether the lustre has been impaired is the key to whether a straight grade in the 55-58 range is viable

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  • olympicsosolympicsos Posts: 857 ✭✭✭✭

    This coin probably will end up in an AU details slab. It's very sad because the 1916 and early 1917 half dollars are the best Walking Liberty halves of the series as they have the textured satiny surfaces from Weinman's original models. Only thing that sucks is that the overwhelming majority of them lacked full detail. Only if they made matte proof coins in 1916 of the silver pieces...

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    The new photos scream "cleaned".

    The new photos scream a bunch of things (spot lighting, take the coin out of the holder before taking a picture, etc.) but cleaned is not one of them. Whether the coin is or isn't is a separate issue, but I don't see anything in that photo that makes me think the coin is obvious cleaned.

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    AU53 or 55. Tough to grade on an angle like that.

    iI agree.

    The second photo makes it look like a different coin so no clarification.

    Do not feel bad. I take even worse photos.

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks cleaned to me. Those surfaces dont appear original.



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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2021 9:28AM

    @gumby1234 said:
    I think @Cougar1978 forgot to add a zero after the 25. LOL

    Wow must have been… CF says $300 AU50 yep I goofed. So send in to our hosts?

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  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @291fifth its the lighting. I take horrible photos. It has mint luster still, although not as much as my 1944 Walker.

    EDIT plus the new photos it is in a 2X2

    I’m not a photography wizard but try taking your pictures inside on a sunny day without any additional light sources.

  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,249 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the photos accent any perceived 'scratches' and in-person the coin probably doesn't exhibit these deficiencies. I like it as a sold higher-end AU coin.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ive been messing around with lighting and hopefully these are better photos.



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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think these are your best, and likely most accurate, shots of the coin. Still an AU, even when upside-down.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB yes better and more accurate. Upside down was to show coin better without getting the glare from tilting it.

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55-58. Not a bad coin at all.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons Thanks, I got it about 30 years ago for a couple of bucks over melt. About $8

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    with the new photos, I'll bump up my estimate to 55-58.

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