This excellent photograph proves, without question, that this coin was struck from a die produced by EDM(spark erosion). The "hub" was likely a casting given the defects, but the die was certainly made by EDM process.
Slick slick slick. John waynee I presume. Hector no? Are you going to tell people to shut up like you did over on ngc. Walk on brother. I feel so sorry for you. Would you like to stop and join reality. I know you remember me. ( a little advice you changed your name day after day over there and did you really think you could come here and start over. Stop). So next you’ll be Hector then will you reprise your role of John waynee or something new?🤓
Oh ya welcome newbie?
You owe someone over at ngc an apology. You remember you listed off a bunch of his quotes and posts and a told him to keep his mouth shut. PM me if you need a name For me apology accepted. 🤓
Since you asked, I believe you're wrong. See from the U.S. Code, below. A copy need not be exact in order to qualify as such.
18 U.S. Code § 489 - Making or possessing likeness of coins
U.S. Code
"Whoever, within the United States, makes or brings therein from any foreign country, or possesses with intent to sell, give away, or in any other manner uses the same, except under authority of the Secretary of the Treasury or other proper officer of the United States, any token, disk, or device in the likeness or similitude as to design, color, or the inscription thereon of any of the coins of the United States or of any foreign country issued as money, either under the authority of the United States or under the authority of any foreign government shall be fined under this title."
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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@Walkerguy21D said:
Looks to be a copy of the S-8.
Pretty close, the only real difference to me is the beading is off.
The plain edge is also a concern, though there are reports of 'plain edge' specimens,
going back to Edward Froussard.
@ChrisH821 said:
Why are you bringing this back up?
He was trolling another forum with this on and off over the last year. Most members over there don't take the bait anymore, so I guess he's searching for new sources of entertainment
@ifthevamzarockin said: "First, China doesn't make reproductions from copper, or so the internet says, that would be too expensive in just metal costs alone."
Clearly you didn't research this as much as you have everything else.
You can get them here for $1.70 and they are made of copper.
The images shown have "copy" on them but there is a very good chance the coins you get will not be stamped.
@ifthevamzarockin said: "First, China doesn't make reproductions from copper, or so the internet says, that would be too expensive in just metal costs alone."
Clearly you didn't research this as much as you have everything else.
You can get them here for $1.70 and they are made of copper.
The images shown have "copy" on them but there is a very good chance the coins you get will not be stamped.
I'd delete the Alibaba link,,, that store is named PCGS lol 🤣🤣
Hmmm makes one wonder 🤔
Anyways I contacted them and they said they don't have my exact coin with all the specs,,,, they said they have this @ 10 grams!
The other TPG forum deleted your multitude of posts regarding this fake coin. Please stop implying that it might be authentic. Experts, including former authenticators/graders have told you it's fake, both on this forum and other forums. You confirmed that EAC members, Including the EAC president confirmed it as fake. Plus you refuse to send it in for authentication using the excuse of "needing to do more research"
I don't know if you were banned from the other site, but I don't see anything positive coming from this nonsense.
It's actually meant to be never discovered esp if you all can't see the writing on the wall,,,,I mean about this coin,,,, then it just wasn't meant to be & if someone were to get close just block em,, you'll show them.
Thanks all
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He's not the only one who is playing this game.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
This excellent photograph proves, without question, that this coin was struck from a die produced by EDM(spark erosion). The "hub" was likely a casting given the defects, but the die was certainly made by EDM process.
I'll go ahead and link this 15 year old thread, you can do more of your own research.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/541330/what-is-a-quot-spark-erosion-counterfeit-quot
No further discussion is necessary.
Collector, occasional seller
Slick slick slick. John waynee I presume. Hector no? Are you going to tell people to shut up like you did over on ngc. Walk on brother. I feel so sorry for you. Would you like to stop and join reality. I know you remember me. ( a little advice you changed your name day after day over there and did you really think you could come here and start over. Stop). So next you’ll be Hector then will you reprise your role of John waynee or something new?🤓
Oh ya welcome newbie?
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
You owe someone over at ngc an apology. You remember you listed off a bunch of his quotes and posts and a told him to keep his mouth shut. PM me if you need a name For me apology accepted. 🤓
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Since you asked, I believe you're wrong. See from the U.S. Code, below. A copy need not be exact in order to qualify as such.
18 U.S. Code § 489 - Making or possessing likeness of coins
U.S. Code
"Whoever, within the United States, makes or brings therein from any foreign country, or possesses with intent to sell, give away, or in any other manner uses the same, except under authority of the Secretary of the Treasury or other proper officer of the United States, any token, disk, or device in the likeness or similitude as to design, color, or the inscription thereon of any of the coins of the United States or of any foreign country issued as money, either under the authority of the United States or under the authority of any foreign government shall be fined under this title."
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I knew an update was needed, for this coin has two faces, this is what you see in hand, the one I posted was taken with a microscope camera.
I'm not giving it away.
I'm not selling it.
I've scanned both faces with Google lens, it does match all those things you mentioned, it doesn't match any coins, in fact it's all alone.
Thanks all
peacockcoins
I just clicked when reading the EDM posts, that it destroys the coin, could this explain what appears to be two faces?
You'll should see the 💯+posts on NGC LOL, same topic but even further information, also along with my other unacceptable coins.
Thanks all
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2. Some make an effort
3. Both are time wasters.
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Originated the Rochester (NY) Area Coin Expo
SHUT UP!
Not that great a copy, I have a couple in my box of bad.
But this one (an S-5) was a great counterfeit that made its way into a TPG holder as genuine:
Since this post is wandering a bit I thought I would add to it
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May I ask you kind sir,,, who identified it was fake?
I'm gonna make a guess who identified it "EAC"
Thanks
Does this comment still stand?
Why are you bringing this back up?
Collector, occasional seller
He was trolling another forum with this on and off over the last year. Most members over there don't take the bait anymore, so I guess he's searching for new sources of entertainment
Oh I figured you'd want the certs:
Thanks all
In my humble opinion we owe it to the EAC expert,,, to further investigate this coin and all of the potential planchettes.
Thanks all hope all is well & have a great weekend
I'd delete the Alibaba link,,, that store is named PCGS lol 🤣🤣
Hmmm makes one wonder 🤔
Anyways I contacted them and they said they don't have my exact coin with all the specs,,,, they said they have this @ 10 grams
The other TPG forum deleted your multitude of posts regarding this fake coin. Please stop implying that it might be authentic. Experts, including former authenticators/graders have told you it's fake, both on this forum and other forums. You confirmed that EAC members, Including the EAC president confirmed it as fake. Plus you refuse to send it in for authentication using the excuse of "needing to do more research"
I don't know if you were banned from the other site, but I don't see anything positive coming from this nonsense.
Your being played guys. SickCoins has no life and will never quit trolling.
Hey Alex good morning, did you even read it?
I said I'm done trying to prove this coin.
To me this was never trolling as you put it, yet somehow me wanting to learn and ask why,,,, drove your opinions along with others,,,, I get it.
I'm not against you then or now, or anyone.
Thanks
Good bye. Have a nice trip.
It's actually meant to be never discovered esp if you all can't see the writing on the wall,,,,I mean about this coin,,,, then it just wasn't meant to be & if someone were to get close just block em,, you'll show them.
Thanks all
I did.