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gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Need better pictures but it looks to be a details coin.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2021 5:40PM

    Is it to fill a hole in an album? Or just to have? I'd say pass if just to have but a good filler coin

    EDIT - As long as a readable date, if for a filler then about 35/40$ ?? Even though it's a low mintage of 348,000

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 somebody may want it for a lowball set

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Steven59 somebody may want it for a lowball set

    Tough one - way too much for a PO01!

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2021 5:54PM

    @Steven59 said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Steven59 somebody may want it for a lowball set

    Tough one - way too much for a PO01!

    Low ball coins would have to be problem free.

    That coin looks more like Good details.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2021 5:55PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    You can't put a details coin in a low ball set.
    Low ball coins would have to be problem free.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Steven59 said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Steven59 somebody may want it for a lowball set

    Tough one - way too much for a PO01!

    Low ball coins would have to be problem free.

    I can do whatever I want! Remember this is 2021

    Let me rephrase then: the low ball coins that get premiums are problem free. You can put an VG holed in your set IF you want, but no one will pay a premium for such a "low ball" coin.

    Then again, you are also free to overpay. So, that coin is worth somewhere between $20 and $20,000. I hope that helps the OP. :)

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    Let me rephrase then: the low ball coins that get premiums are problem free.

    Just wondering - how can "LowBall" coins be problem free? - Low ball collectors collect problem coins? (As long as with dates) EH?

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2021 6:38PM

    @Steven59 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    Let me rephrase then: the low ball coins that get premiums are problem free.

    Just wondering - how can "LowBall" coins be problem free? - Low ball collectors collect problem coins? (As long as with dates) EH?

    There are people that collect crappy coins, even coins with problems. When someone refers to a "lowball" coin that commands a premium they are generally referring to the registry sets. In that instance, low technical grade without problems is what commands a premium.

    In that context, a sound AG coin is a lowball coin. A P01 with a hole in it is not.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf what makes the coin a details grade? Heres some hopefully better photos.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very worn cent... Not one that I would add. Well, if found metal detecting, I would certainly keep it. Cheers, RickO

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko yes very worn, but do you think it is details grade?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,450 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @ricko yes very worn, but do you think it is details grade?

    Details grade due to the corrosion on the reverse (that green area is corrosion). For a low ball coin to have any real value, it needs to have original surfaces and no problems other than normal circulation wear.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234.... Yes, as above... Due to the corrosion. Cheers, RickO

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you want reasonably informed opinions on if it will straight grade or details grade you must have better photos.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 24, 2021 9:31AM

    ** For a low ball coin to have any real value, it needs to have original surfaces and no problems other than normal circulation wear.**

    This is ideal, however I've seen some low grade large cents straight grade that had issues, that on another day may have received a Details grade. The coin posted may or may not straight grade, but I'd lean toward not, and likely merits G4 details. You may want to keep it as a pocket piece with other loose change to naturally wear it down and smooth out some of the issues, if you really want an AG or lower desirable 'lowball' coin.

    Frankly the lowball concept is kind of lost on me....I can see Morgan and Peace dollars, etc being a neat collectable in very worn pristine states, as that is highly unusual. But with many of the large cents still in existence being in a lowball-ish state already? But to each his own.

    BTW, the 1806 is a sleeper date, and the reported mintage of 348,000 likely contains many dated 1805, but struck in '06. It's tough in VF/XF, and formidable in AU. But this is nothing in the context of the draped bust series, where the collector already faces the 1796, 1799, and 1804. And the Barber guys think they got it tough lol!

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,170 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 24, 2021 9:11AM

    @PerryHall said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    @ricko yes very worn, but do you think it is details grade?

    Details grade due to the corrosion on the reverse (that green area is corrosion). For a low ball coin to have any real value, it needs to have original surfaces and no problems other than normal circulation wear.

    Exactly this... as an example, here's a low-ish ball LC from the Braided Hair Series. It came with the Grellman attribution card (straight graded at 15+):


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  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    @ricko yes very worn, but do you think it is details grade?

    Details grade due to the corrosion on the reverse (that green area is corrosion). For a low ball coin to have any real value, it needs to have original surfaces and no problems other than normal circulation wear.

    Also looks cleaned to me.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aotearoa It is very dark brown. It could be the lighting on my digital scope making it look cleaned.

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