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New Find 1986 Penny on Zinc Planchet

weighing in at 2.64 grams

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kinda shiny, possibly plated. I believe that an unplated zinc planchet would be dull. I have been wrong before.

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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2021 7:26PM
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1986 cents were minted with copper plated zinc blanks.

    they weigh +/- 2.5grams

    it's hard to tell from the photo, but if the color is silvery, then I'd say the reason it is the wrong color and over weight would be due to a plating.

    if the color is right, then it is a normal cent within weight tolerances.

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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it has been polished.

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Normal 2.5 grams - yes, may have been plated. Ridge ring on the left side so a very worn die stamping. I think 2.64 is still within tolerance - so no biggie.

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  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Plated. PMD.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin is not an unplated zinc planchet. The weight alone should tell you that. It may be plated with some other metal, cannot tell from those images. Cheers, RickO

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unplated zinc cents look dull. I own a certified one. It is not shiny at all.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Send it in for slabbing and see what happens.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing to jump up and down about. 1986-D penny without copper coating seems like it would be an easy piece to forge.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @robec looks a lot more lusterful than mine. Mine looks like the 1943 pennies I would find in pocket change years ago.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    rough crowd today.

    it looks plated. the color in the pictures have an odd color to them. they don't appear zinc colored. they don't appear copper colored. put the coin on a white background and post photos.

    as for weight, the copper plating is thin and one would expect a number under 2.5 grams. there is an off chance we are talking a heavy planchet. it would be a real off chance.

    try new photos

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2021 9:48AM

    @robec said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    Unplated zinc cents look dull. I own a certified one. It is not shiny at all.

    I have an 1986-D unplated zinc that is very shiny. I bought it as an ANACS 65/65 in 1987 Ann has been in both NGC and PCGS slabs since.

    To me that looks like a satiny shine. The one in the OP looks polished.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    rough crowd today.

    it looks plated. the color in the pictures have an odd color to them. they don't appear zinc colored. they don't appear copper colored. put the coin on a white background and post photos.

    as for weight, the copper plating is thin and one would expect a number under 2.5 grams. there is an off chance we are talking a heavy planchet. it would be a real off chance.

    try new photos

    In what way has the crowd been rough?

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  • Here is something i think needs to be said, considering i am weighing the coin on a cheap scale i got off of amazon, i dont think we can call that weight accuarte simply becuase its not a for trade scale, and as a former weights and measuers guy I know these cheap scales are not required to be 100% accurate so the weight I should not of posted becuase the scale is not for legal trade if it was i could get the most accuarte reading within the tolerances. and each scale you get even with the calibration can weigh different. I dont think it was plated as plating would be consistant across the coin, see attached images,

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TunaMcButter said:
    Here is something i think needs to be said, considering i am weighing the coin on a cheap scale i got off of amazon, i dont think we can call that weight accuarte simply becuase its not a for trade scale, and as a former weights and measuers guy I know these cheap scales are not required to be 100% accurate so the weight I should not of posted becuase the scale is not for legal trade if it was i could get the most accuarte reading within the tolerances. and each scale you get even with the calibration can weigh different. I dont think it was plated as plating would be consistant across the coin, see attached images,

    It depends on how it was plated. That looks like a cheap plating job often used to make novelties like key chains. Isn't there some actual copper showing through at 10:00

    If you don't believe the educated opinions here, spend the $40 and send it in. I've dumped dozens of those into Coinstars over the years, but what do I know.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "considering i am weighing the coin on a cheap scale i got off of amazon, i dont think we can call that weight accuarte simply becuase its not a for trade scale,"

    It doesn't matter if it's a cheap scale & not for trade.
    You can double check the accuracy of your scale with coins or other items of known weight.
    You can take 5 quarters and if they all weigh close to 5.67 your scale is correct.
    Or you can continue to use the "not for trade" thing to argue with folks that have been doing coins for 20 to 30 years.

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The User1 of scales vs cheap Amazon scopes, I see.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here ya go ;)

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TunaMcButter said:
    Here is something i think needs to be said, considering i am weighing the coin on a cheap scale i got off of amazon, i dont think we can call that weight accuarte simply becuase its not a for trade scale, and as a former weights and measuers guy I know these cheap scales are not required to be 100% accurate so the weight I should not of posted becuase the scale is not for legal trade if it was i could get the most accuarte reading within the tolerances. and each scale you get even with the calibration can weigh different. I dont think it was plated as plating would be consistant across the coin, see attached images,

    Your new images prove that the coin is indeed plated. Look at the 86-D photo above, notice how sharp the beard and hair detail is on that coin. Now look at yours, the detail is soft not sharp at all because the plating has filled in some of the details. And as was mentioned you can see copper peaking thru around the rim on both sides of the coin, in 1986 the cent is a solid zinc core. If this was a true zinc planchet that was missing the copper coating you would not see any copper color on it.

    You can continue to believe what you want to but it clearly is a plated coin and not what you want it to be.

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks plated.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah

    That’s a plating job

    The plating is wearing off parts of the rim and Lincoln’s shoulder

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2021 5:49PM

    @coinbuf said:
    ( You can continue to believe what you want to but it clearly is a plated coin and not what you want it to be)

    @MsMorrisine said:
    ( The plating is wearing off parts of the rim and Lincoln’s shoulder)

    Absolutely........

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  • TunaMcButterTunaMcButter Posts: 19
    edited July 17, 2021 6:54PM

    its not that i dont belive you all this is a learning process so I have questions and to me yes weight mnatters, if i dont ask questions then i never learn you guys are most likely correct and so dont take my questions in the wrong manner if I question something you say then i want to know more, my opions are what i think they are it can change depeding on the information provided, you dont expect me to belive everyone of you popped out of the womb knowing about coins yeah? I actually appreciate you all for helping me to learn after all isnt that what this hobby is all about? I think some of you forget that nuance is lost online, dont chase off a new person to the hobby of coins,

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TunaMcButter said:
    its not that i dont belive you - dont chase off a new person to the hobby of coins,

    It seems like that, and why does the truth about your coin chase you off?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:

    its not that i dont belive you - dont chase off a new person to the hobby of coins,

    It seems like that, and why does the truth about your coin chase you off?

    @291fifth said:
    Send it in for slabbing and see what happens.

    @coinbuf said:

    You can continue to believe what you want to but it clearly is a plated coin and not what you want it to be.

    @jmlanzaf said:

    If you don't believe the educated opinions here, spend the $40 and send it in. I've dumped dozens of those into Coinstars over the years, but what do I know.

    I don’t think we are being messed with as we have by other people in the recent past.

    I’m not ready for confrontation either.

    So far, so pretty ok. Got questions- got answers - got more questions- got more answers and things are settled.

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "you dont expect me to belive everyone of you popped out of the womb knowing about coins yeah?"

    :D

    No one here popped out and there is a mix of knowledge about coins. There are newer collectors and there are folks here that have looked at millions of coins over the years. You may hear an expert here say "I don't like the look of it" or "something looks off." It comes from years of looking many examples and sometimes it is hard to express in words or you would need to write a book for it to be fully understood. People ask me "how can you tell this cent has been cleaned" and I have to tell them "I just can." Unless I had hundreds of examples of cleaned & non cleaned coins to show them they would not understand it. Some of it you need to learn to accept and realize that when you get a few more years in the hobby it will be easier to understand. It never hurts to ask more questions and try to learn but after 10 people tell you the same thing it's time to move to the next question.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You spelled "belive" wrong....................

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