@Stuart said: @Buildging91 What’s the background story on how you located and purchased this coin? 🤔
I’m asking as a 1921 Peace Dollar fan and collecting specialist…
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Hi Stuart-When I started researching this coin I saw some threads you were involved in.
I'm happy to have you engage with the thread! Getting to your question.
I unfortunately have not been able to track where I had picked this particular coin up as I have had many 1921 Peace Dollars that I have bought and sold over the last several years and no longer have records of most.
I’d love to see some higher-resolution better-focused professional quality photos of the subject coin.
I find it useful to annotate provenance, purchase price & date of purchase on a small paper sticker that I unobtrusively attach to the back side of each slab, making it easier to access that information.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
I’d love to see some higher-resolution better-focused professional quality photos of the subject coin.
I find it useful to annotate provenance, purchase price & date of purchase on a small paper sticker that I unobtrusively attach to the back side of each slab, making it easier to access that information.
I may take the coin to a professional photographer. If I do I will post here.
Coming across this coin was purely chance-I'm just a novice.
I knew it was different though, light reflects off it differently. I originally thought someone scratched it up pretty bad. The Rim is very Bold and uniform compared to others I've had.
@Treashunt said:
ANACS COMMENT: "Unable to verify as a Satin Proof. Definitely worth getting additional opinions on."
Honest reply
Yes!! I really respect that ANACS gave me an honest response about the coins designation.
Hedging their bets? What kind of liability, if any, does a TPG expose themselves to if turns out that they had verified a 21 Peace Dollar as a Satin Proof and "the additional opinions" opine otherwise?
@Treashunt said:
ANACS COMMENT: "Unable to verify as a Satin Proof. Definitely worth getting additional opinions on."
Honest reply
Yes!! I really respect that ANACS gave me an honest response about the coins designation.
Hedging their bets? What kind of liability, if any, does a TPG expose themselves to if turns out that they had verified a 21 Peace Dollar as a Satin Proof and "the additional opinions" opine otherwise?
@Treashunt said:
ANACS COMMENT: "Unable to verify as a Satin Proof. Definitely worth getting additional opinions on."
Honest reply
Yes!! I really respect that ANACS gave me an honest response about the coins designation.
Hedging their bets? What kind of liability, if any, does a TPG expose themselves to if turns out that they had verified a 21 Peace Dollar as a Satin Proof and "the additional opinions" opine otherwise?
If they opine one way, the additional notes are meaningless, since they can be discarded.
That is why the label doesn't say 'Satin Proof".
@TomB said:
Your offer for sale in this thread might make the thread disappear and you may or may not face additional penalty (timeout? ban?) from the moderators.
@TomB-Thank you Tom, I was told it was okay to list it here -I guess I will rephrase it?
@TomB said:
Your offer for sale in this thread might make the thread disappear and you may or may not face additional penalty (timeout? ban?) from the moderators.
@TomB said:
Your offer for sale in this thread might make the thread disappear and you may or may not face additional penalty (timeout? ban?) from the moderators.
And it would be a shame if either or both of those things occurred.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Buildging91 The most appropriate place for you to list the subject coin for sale & advertise it with photos would be in a new thread on the Buy, Sell & Trade (BS&T) Forum.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Wherever the subject coin ends up, I’d still like to see Professional Quality High Resolution PCGSTrueView or NGCPHOTO PROOF Certification photos of it to get a better look at it.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Started out with an impressive (if overlit) picture.
As happy to believe well of a coin as any, I can see (imperfectly) its virtues. Some are impressive.
But.......
Would I buy it under the right circumstances? Yes, but not these.
I now feel the coin is being pimped coyly and yet shamelessly by a heretofore unknown member who disavows ownership or any responsibility for the miserable (and misleading) images.
As is? No recourse? No return address?
No truly intelligible images?
A five-figure price tag?
We're being trolled.
Formerly fun, now Run Forrest Run.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
I sure as hell am no expert on this type of coin but with my eyes it’s is without question a hammered strike
with needle sharp details like no other business strike I’ve ever seen. The surfaces of this piece are also Immaculate. No question it is a special peace dollar. If I was forced to make a call I’d say proof strike.
Thank you for sharing such a beautiful Peace dollar👍👌
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Obviously the buyer and fellow posters that made offers didn't see it that way-to each his own-
To each their own indeed. I'd make an offer based a a good picture. You apparently are not the owner, (though your also state you've had this and other 21's for some years), but a broker of some sort. As of this point, I'm flagging this thread. It's a hype and a hoax. Which shell is the pea under?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
Answers
Looks like Lucy pulled it away just as Charlie Brown clicked the camera.
Poor fatty holder. I'll never understand the obsession with crossing those awesome old fattys to modern PCGS.
Professional Numismatist. "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
ANACS COMMENT: "Unable to verify as a Satin Proof. Definitely worth getting additional opinions on."
Honest reply
BHNC #203
Yes!! I really respect that ANACS gave me an honest response about the coins designation.
@Buildging91 What’s the background story on how you located and purchased this coin? 🤔
I’m asking as a 1921 Peace Dollar fan and collecting specialist…
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Hi Stuart-When I started researching this coin I saw some threads you were involved in.
I'm happy to have you engage with the thread! Getting to your question.
I unfortunately have not been able to track where I had picked this particular coin up as I have had many 1921 Peace Dollars that I have bought and sold over the last several years and no longer have records of most.
@Buildging91 Thanks for your reply to my inquiry.
I’d love to see some higher-resolution better-focused professional quality photos of the subject coin.
I find it useful to annotate provenance, purchase price & date of purchase on a small paper sticker that I unobtrusively attach to the back side of each slab, making it easier to access that information.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
I may take the coin to a professional photographer. If I do I will post here.
Coming across this coin was purely chance-I'm just a novice.
I knew it was different though, light reflects off it differently. I originally thought someone scratched it up pretty bad. The Rim is very Bold and uniform compared to others I've had.
This is one of my best struck 1921 Peace VAM-1H’s for comparison purposes with the subject coin — Collecting them can become very addictive… 😉
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Outstanding Detailed strike ! Thanks for sharing.
You’re very welcome!! 👍
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Hedging their bets? What kind of liability, if any, does a TPG expose themselves to if turns out that they had verified a 21 Peace Dollar as a Satin Proof and "the additional opinions" opine otherwise?
Good questions!
Quite the looker! Congrats!
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If they opine one way, the additional notes are meaningless, since they can be discarded.
That is why the label doesn't say 'Satin Proof".
BHNC #203
@Buildging91 I’d still love to see some higher-resolution better-focused professional quality photos of the subject coin.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
@Stuart
I should have the coin in hand tomorrow.
Money
Fattys, at least the ones I chase, sell in-line with modern PCGS.
Professional Numismatist. "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Your offer for sale in this thread might make the thread disappear and you may or may not face additional penalty (timeout? ban?) from the moderators.
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@TomB-Thank you Tom, I was told it was okay to list it here -I guess I will rephrase it?
Poof already gone!
And it would be a shame if either or both of those things occurred.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Buildging91 The most appropriate place for you to list the subject coin for sale & advertise it with photos would be in a new thread on the Buy, Sell & Trade (BS&T) Forum.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
forum slammer.
happens to the best of us.
one thing I'd add about selling on the BST is an unwritten rule on "auction" style competitions on the BST.
I want to spend your money and get it confirmed. I so want to spend your money. Very exciting find.
Wherever the subject coin ends up, I’d still like to see Professional Quality High Resolution PCGS TrueView or NGC PHOTO PROOF Certification photos of it to get a better look at it.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
You'll have to take that up with whom ever purchases the coin.
That was the purpose of my post 😉
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Started out with an impressive (if overlit) picture.
As happy to believe well of a coin as any, I can see (imperfectly) its virtues. Some are impressive.
But.......
Would I buy it under the right circumstances? Yes, but not these.
I now feel the coin is being pimped coyly and yet shamelessly by a heretofore unknown member who disavows ownership or any responsibility for the miserable (and misleading) images.
As is? No recourse? No return address?
No truly intelligible images?
A five-figure price tag?
We're being trolled.
Formerly fun, now Run Forrest Run.
Obviously the buyer and fellow posters that made offers didn't see it that way-to each his own-
Appears to be polished to me.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
Welcome to the forum🤠
I sure as hell am no expert on this type of coin but with my eyes it’s is without question a hammered strike
with needle sharp details like no other business strike I’ve ever seen. The surfaces of this piece are also Immaculate. No question it is a special peace dollar. If I was forced to make a call I’d say proof strike.
Thank you for sharing such a beautiful Peace dollar👍👌
Killer coin!
To each their own indeed. I'd make an offer based a a good picture. You apparently are not the owner, (though your also state you've had this and other 21's for some years), but a broker of some sort. As of this point, I'm flagging this thread. It's a hype and a hoax. Which shell is the pea under?
You give me way to much credit, I'm not sharp.
Acting stupid is very sharp. The inconsistencies in your various stories are adding up.