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Are these pocket change?

We sorted through some more change tonight. Thank you all to replied before and anyone that does reply now. Still unsure on what really constitutes a coin as rare 😑😑

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You forgot your pictures

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  • @MsMorrisine said:
    You forgot your pictures

    Sorry. Up now 🙂

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know what you can buy for a couple of cents these days but yes-they are pocket change.

  • @koynekwest said:
    I don't know what you can buy for a couple of cents these days but yes-they are pocket change.

    Thanks. We thought the double edged or the strike through might be some anomaly.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see lots of die deterioration.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The ring around the 1986 is from a well worked die. It is beginning to cave around the edge.

    The raised portion around the obverse of the 1981 is from a mid-aligned obverse die. Simply, the die wasn’t centered. It’s not nearly dramatic enough to be worth but the 1¢.

    As far as someone’s past statement about rarity— a low number of something can make it rare, but just because there is a low number doesn’t mean it is valuable. Anyone want the world’s only 10 foot pile of cicada shells?

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure what causes those peripheral raised rings but they do not add any value to the coin.

  • We are rather lost on this coin stuff.we have been reading what errors are so we thought to ask after searching. The double edge on the 81 is listed as an error. Both 86s would also fall under that definition and as a MAD Clash. Is there a post on here that we can read that gives examples of errors?

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 9, 2021 8:53PM

    Slight "rim finning" (on your 81) is the peripheral raised outside partial rings (http://www.error-ref.com/finning/) , Yes, worn dies (Die deterioration) create the "ridge ring" - the raised areas on the fields next to the rim, and also maybe some slight misaligned die (MAD) strikes. But all are common die occurrences and not worth any premium

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1981 is technically an error as the mint would rather cough out cents with centered dies. However, that isn’t dramatic enough and they aren’t that uncommon with such a small misalignment

    The 1986 is definitely not a strike-through. It is die deterioration. That alone is not an error. It is also extremely common for the mint to use dies until they develop some ugly problems.

    There really isn’t a single error post here.

    You can try starting with this site: https://www.error-ref.com/

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1981 has a bit of a doubled rim as mentioned.
    It is a slight double strike or misaligned die and is a mechanical problem rather than a die problem. ( no extra value & common )

    Your 1986 looks like it may have a slightly misaligned obverse die and a little die erosion. ( no extra value & common )

    Hold on to them for now as a reference, as you go through more of your change you will see how common it is. ;)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the above assessments.... There are good sites available (such as the link above) to learn more about error coins. Often, values are determined by a) Scarcity b) Degree of the error (such as slightly off center as opposed to 50% off center) and c) Type of error. Good luck in your searches... You might also try roll searching (getting rolls of coins from your bank). Cheers, RickO

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes.

  • SilverProofQuarter1883SilverProofQuarter1883 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup they are good for only one cent each

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You are asking the wrong questions.

    All of the coins you showed are errors.
    All of the coins you showed are rare. In fact, they're all unique -- nobody but you has those exact coins.

    All of the coins you showed are also worth 1 cent each. Value depends on what someone will pay. It doesn't matter if something is an error, it doesn't matter if something is rare or unique, unless someone is willing to pay for it.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:
    You are asking the wrong questions.

    All of the coins you showed are errors.
    All of the coins you showed are rare. In fact, they're all unique -- nobody but you has those exact coins.

    All of the coins you showed are also worth 1 cent each. Value depends on what someone will pay.

    Is a worn die causing a "ridge ring" an error? And are there, say, 150,000 cents minted with that same die and thus the same ridge ring? Then it's a variety that nobody really cares about. You have to distinguish between errors and varieties. Errors are one of a kind happenings in the minting process like from clipped planchets, laminations, struck throughs, etc - but varieties are many strikes off of the same die as the Doubled Dies, "BIE" cents, Die cracks, and etc to those too........

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BIE are just common die chips and are not varieties
    I wouldn’t call a die crack a variety.

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yes, spend them

    Frank

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