My NEW Maple Leaf purchase.

joeykoins

Hi guys,
I do realize this is a foreign coin (bullion), but I wanted to post it here, with all you guys. Awesome coin! Love the different appearances of those lines on the coin. The debut in 2014. For security purposes I read.
Anyway, about the purity of the coin. The 9999 as oppose to our Silver Eagles 999. How special are those 4 figures than just our 3? Thanks

hbarbee

At the current silver spot price at 23.26 the extra .09% is worth a little over 2 cents. However, if you buy from one of the popular bullion houses such as APMEX, the price of the Eagle is about $5 more than the Maple Leaf.

smuglr

The maple leafs are pretty coins and the RCM does some neat things with them. The 2021 super incuse reverse proof is an example. The purity difference is negligible. 99.9% pure as opposed to 99.99% pure, an additional pass through the refining process. .999 is 999 parts per 1000 so 1 part per 1000 impurity. .9999 is 9999 parts per 10000 pure so 1 part per 10000 or .1 part per 1000 impurity. I think mostly a bit of marketing by the RCM having the purest. Enjoy your new coin.

joeykoins

@smuglr said:
The maple leafs are pretty coins and the RCM does some neat things with them. The 2021 super incuse reverse proof is an example. The purity difference is negligible. 99.9% pure as opposed to 99.99% pure, an additional pass through the refining process. .999 is 999 parts per 1000 so 1 part per 1000 impurity. .9999 is 9999 parts per 10000 pure so 1 part per 10000 or .1 part per 1000 impurity. I think mostly a bit of marketing by the RCM having the purest. Enjoy your new coin.

Lol. Thanks for the info and thanks for racking my brain!

joeykoins

I know my photos don't show any milk spots. But unfortunately, they are there.
Are these notorious for having them, Ala' The Silver Eagles?

smuglr

I've had very little problem with milk spots on maple leafs, but I have with other RCM bullion coins, and I think the ML are more known for them than the ASE.

Kove

@smuglr said:
The maple leafs are pretty coins and the RCM does some neat things with them. The 2021 super incuse reverse proof is an example. The purity difference is negligible. 99.9% pure as opposed to 99.99% pure, an additional pass through the refining process. .999 is 999 parts per 1000 so 1 part per 1000 impurity. .9999 is 9999 parts per 10000 pure so 1 part per 10000 or .1 part per 1000 impurity. I think mostly a bit of marketing by the RCM having the purest. Enjoy your new coin.

It's not "an additional pass through the refining process" to go from .999 up to .9999

A friend of mine was VP of production for a major supplier of ASE planchets to the US Mint...

Their silver is extremely refined, such that they can make any .9999 product. They actually add a measured amount of copper "impurity" to the melted silver to bring it down to the .999 standard defined for the ASE.

Downtown1974

@joeykoins said:
I know my photos don't show any milk spots. But unfortunately, they are there.
Are these notorious for having them, Ala' The Silver Eagles?

Yup. Very prone to milk spots.

TomB

I get dizzy looking at those.

smuglr

It's not "an additional pass through the refining process" to go from .999 up to .9999

The refining process the RCM uses to attain the 9999 silver for THEIR maple leaf is explained step by step on the RCM website. THEIR silver is subjected to an extra step in the refining process in a nitrate based solution further refining out copper and gold impurities.

IkesT

@joeykoins said:
Love the different appearances of those lines on the coin.

FYI, the lines are called "crows feet".

ricko

I find it interesting how the 'lines' 'fingerprint' around the images. I use that term since the curvatures resemble fingerprints. Seems a more complex 'anti-counterfeiting' measure than a missing reed. Cheers, RickO

pmh1nic

@hbarbee said:
At the current silver spot price at 23.26 the extra .09% is worth a little over 2 cents. However, if you buy from one of the popular bullion houses such as APMEX, the price of the Eagle is about $5 more than the Maple Leaf.

Where is the spot price $23.26? Last I checked it was over $26.

The RCM puts out some nice product. I think the 9999 is for bragging rights.

MetroD

@ricko said:
I find it interesting how the 'lines' 'fingerprint' around the images. I use that term since the curvatures resemble fingerprints. Seems a more complex 'anti-counterfeiting' measure than a missing reed. Cheers, RickO

An interesting article that details the security features employed by various sources.

An overview of the RCM "DNA" system.

Jimnight

Not a bad looking coin!

Steven59

So far, I've never received a Maple Leaf with milk spots, ( "crossed fingers").

MetroD

@Steven59 said:
So far, I've never received a Maple Leaf with milk spots, ( "crossed fingers").

Mintshield was introduced in 2018 as a "solution for reducing white spots on silver bullion coins".

I have often wondered how it was faring 'in the field'.

Steven59

@MetroD said:
Mintshield was introduced in 2018 as a "solution for reducing white spots on silver bullion coins".

I took a quick look and most of mine are dated 2015 and 2016. After that the prices started to go up and I slowly stopped stacking. But all are clear - maybe the dealer (internet) I bought them from hand picked them? , never had an ASE with a milkspot from them either - raw coins, not slabs.

erwindoc

Love this series. I have a dansco I have enjoyed filling. Had to buy an extra blank page for all the special ones they minted!

koynekwest

I really like the effect those lines give to the coin.

Orlena

I’m a fan of the maple leaf, but especially the incuse variety they started producing a few years back. 2018 and 2019 are BU coins and the last couple have been proof with some added twists - rhodium plated and now super incuse. Say what you want about RCM but this is a cool series of coins and some unique minting variations

Jzyskowski1

@Steven59 said:

@MetroD said:
Mintshield was introduced in 2018 as a "solution for reducing white spots on silver bullion coins".

I took a quick look and most of mine are dated 2015 and 2016. After that the prices started to go up and I slowly stopped stacking. But all are clear - maybe the dealer (internet) I bought them from hand picked them? , never had an ASE with a milkspot from them either - raw coins, not slabs.

you are extremely lucky because I get them regularly from the mint. MyWW2 ase privy the most resent. Hopefully you will not experience having a tpg slabbed ase develope spots worthy of the 1950-1960 Franklins halves