Home U.S. Coin Forum

Weird off center Lincoln

gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 3, 2021 8:48PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Weird looking off center struck on the end of the roll maybe? Its not just a line there is a groove running along side it.

Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

Comments

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg any ideas on this one?

    Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think this thread needs a new title. :|

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,903 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2021 10:22AM

    Got better pics? Yes, it is off center , Is it a clip too.............?

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe I can take out of the 2x2 and get some better pics/ @Steven59 I am not the best pic taker.
    @JBK what should the thread be named?

    Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,903 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    Maybe I can take out of the 2x2 and get some better pics/ @Steven59 I am not the best pic taker.
    @JBK what should the thread be named?

    Yeah, I think the glare is coming off the 2x2 pylar (?) and causing the pic to be hard to see.........

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would name it with something related to the error or question. Many people scan the titles for topics of interest.

    "What kind of error is this" or "Weird Lincoln cent error" might be more descriptive.

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Off center on straight-clipped planchet.

    The groove is regularly found on straight clipped coins. Mike Diamond says this about them: “The groove is more likely a scar from a “stop” or guide next to the blade. Alternatively, it could be a fissure demarcating the edge of a folded-over and struck-in burr produced by a dull cutting edge.”

    https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/straight-clips-worthy-of-closer-study-by-coll.html

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking a foldover strike?

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoldenEgg interesting article

    Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK renamed

    Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice error find.... where did you find it?? Bag? Cheers, RickO

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice error!

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko I've never had a bag of coins. Found it in a dealers case many years ago.

    Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the reply.... and a great find no matter where you got it..... Will you have it slabbed? Would be a good idea. Cheers, RickO

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko I don't think that it is worth the price of getting it certified.

    Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @ricko I don't think that it is worth the price of getting it certified.

    I'd want to hear from more of the error experts before deciding. That's a pretty unusual off center coin.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 .... For errors, certification is authentication..... If you were to sell, that is important. Cheers, RickO

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    struck on scrap or defective planchet would be my guess

    images leave some to be desired.

    it would be possible to take a normal o/c coin like this and clip it yourself but doubt it would pass muster.

    <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    struck on scrap or defective planchet would be my guess

    images leave some to be desired.

    it would be possible to take a normal o/c coin like this and clip it yourself but doubt it would pass muster.

    No, look at how the “straight” cut was bulged outwards by the strike. Legit.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Straight cut with groove, without the bulge.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A slight bulge.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @gumby1234 .... For errors, certification is authentication..... If you were to sell, that is important. Cheers, RickO

    I agree. If the value is a potentially a solid amount over slabbing costs I'd probably go for it.

    For error coins the authentication of the error would put an end to any future questions or speculations about what it is.

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @ricko said:
    @gumby1234 .... For errors, certification is authentication..... If you were to sell, that is important. Cheers, RickO

    I agree. If the value is a potentially a solid amount over slabbing costs I'd probably go for it.

    For error coins the authentication of the error would put an end to any future questions or speculations about what it is.

    Any error coin enthusiast, should be able to authenticate this on their own. This piece leaves no doubt. I know that this is a tpg-hosted forum, but I think getting this piece certified is I’ll-advised.

    The below piece sold for $55 this May on eBay as an NGC certified example. Though it was given a details grade, error collectors are probably the most tolerant of a details grade among all those in our hobby. The difference in value between details and straight grades are probably the slimmest for errors compared to other segments of the hobby.

    If it was non-details, maybe it would have sold for $75. Maybe $85? And this one has the biggest value-booster of all: a date and mm. The OP’s coin does not.

    If sent to NGC (the cheaper of NGC and PCGS for errors) one is going to spend a minimum of $37, + $10 service fee, + $20 shipping.

    I don’t think any value-boost from certification/authentication/slabbing is going to overcome that $67 total, unless, possibly, you have other coins on the submission sharing the service fee and shipping costs, or you are a dealer with a strong following that can charge large premiums for your coins due to that strong following.

    And this calculation ignores the whole point of it all. If the OP is simply enjoying the coin, without any sights on selling at all, why should it be slabbed?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's your answer! :p

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file