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The U1chicago Chicago token collection

U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 29, 2021 6:47PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Given my username, it would follow that I would be attracted to tokens related to Chicago. So here I present the small subset of my collection now known by the super creative moniker of "U1chicago Chicago token collection" :D

The mainstay and the one that started it all is the C.D. Peacock.



There are a few types that I am aware of; this one HT-M23 has a somewhat different look for the Peacock and it's facing in a different direction (as compared to the M19 and M21...see link at bottom for examples of those two).

Heritage has the following blurb about this piece:

"According to Rulau, HT-M23 was struck in 1906 by Gorham Mfg. Co., on order of jeweler Charles Daniel Peacock. A numismatist obviously had a hand in the design of these pieces, which resurrect the motif of the 1837 Smiths Clock Hard Times type."

And CU member Broadstruck offered this tidbit of info:

"Although actually struck circa 1900-1906 these are part of the Hard Times Token series since Lyman Low included them in his 1906 supplement on the series. The 1837 date on the obverse reflects the year of establishment. This is the scarcer earlier variety on which the high relief peacock's breast feathers did not fully strike up. The more commonly encountered HT-M19 was issued later struck from a completely different obverse die featuring a flat peacock design."

Plus some history:

"The House of Peacock first opened its doors on February 9, 1837, the same year Chicago (population 4,000) was incorporated as a city. [...]"

More here:
https://cdpeacock.com/history/


M19:
http://www.usrarecoininvestments.co...n-time-is-money-ngc-au58bn-7230011_6028_d.htm

M21:
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/help-two-cters-work-out-a-token-trade.299621/


Here are the main difference I've noticed:
M19: Peacock is looking to the right, date (1837) is inside the inner circle
M21: Peacock is looking to the right, date (1837) is outside the inner circle
M23: Peacock is looking to the left, date (1837) is outside the inner circle

Also the M23 had different feathers vs M19 & M21 as well as showing the full body of the peacock (vs being cut off on the other two).

Comments

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 29, 2021 6:51PM

    Will there be any more? Hopefully so! And they will go here.

  • jclovescoinsjclovescoins Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great peacock!

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never thought I’d say it but that peacock has a particularly pleasing patina. Cool mini set, too. ⭐️

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice tokens.... I like the first one with the Peacock and 'Time is Money' slogan. Cheers, RickO

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2021 6:03AM

    @ricko said:
    Nice tokens.... I like the first one with the Peacock and 'Time is Money' slogan. Cheers, RickO

    The Peacock is definitely my favorite!

    I figured you might also like the message on the second example. :)

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Being in NW Indiana I've seen some fantastic collections of Chicago tokens over the years.

    I never got very far with my own but I do have some including a coupe Peacock tokens in other token collections. I see a lot of these around here but they're usually pricey and even common good fors bring few dollars.

    Tempus fugit.
  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cladking said:
    Being in NW Indiana I've seen some fantastic collections of Chicago tokens over the years.

    I never got very far with my own but I do have some including a coupe Peacock tokens in other token collections. I see a lot of these around here but they're usually pricey and even common good fors bring few dollars.

    From what I have seen, the Peacock Token is increasing in price the last few years. I've wanted to pick up the other versions but haven't had much luck due to these higher prices. My example was a bargain at slightly over $100. Lately I've seen raw example with problems sell for quite a bit more than that. And the graded examples tend to have spirited bidding on all the major venues (eBay, Stacks, GC, etc).


  • What do you think about this Meyer & Wenthe token? I believe it is a salesman's sample circa 1908 or earlier before the company changed addresses. I have never seen or heard of another example.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @snails said:

    What do you think about this Meyer & Wenthe token? I believe it is a salesman's sample circa 1908 or earlier before the company changed addresses. I have never seen or heard of another example.

    That’s an interesting one!
    Maybe @DCW or another member on here knows more about it.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:
    Given my username, it would follow that I would be attracted to tokens related to Chicago. So here I present the small subset of my collection now known by the super creative moniker of "U1chicago Chicago token collection" :D

    The mainstay and the one that started it all is the C.D. Peacock.


    <3<3

    peacockcoins

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there a token for Berghoff’s? I suspect there is but I can’t recall seeing one.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    Is there a token for Berghoff’s? I suspect there is but I can’t recall seeing one.

    Here is a display I found searching online:

    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/berghoff-coin-story-framed-display-14-1978178396

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,736 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice!. I’m going to be sending another batch of for auction soon. I’ll look
    Though and show you any that you might be interested in.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago

    Thanks for sharing. I remember the first time I ate at Berghoff’s over 50 years ago.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:

    @snails said:

    What do you think about this Meyer & Wenthe token? I believe it is a salesman's sample circa 1908 or earlier before the company changed addresses. I have never seen or heard of another example.

    That’s an interesting one!
    Maybe @DCW or another member on here knows more about it.

    This token was from the firm of Gustav Meyer, Jr. and Herman H. Wenthe, whom owned a stencil and stamp firm at the beginning of the 20th Century which may still be in operation. Here are some ads over the last 50 years:
    Company was founded in 1854 by Rudolph A Meyer, the paternal grandfather.
    1969 ad in The Greek Star:

    1973, The Daily herald:

    1975, Chicago Tribune:

    It looks like they produced several metallic checks and tokens, unknown on value of yours. Certainly looks circa 1900. Maybe you can post a pic of the reverse?

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."


  • Thank you for the info on the Meyer & Wenthe token. Does it look as though it might have been gilded originally? Here is the reverse pic.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @snails said:

    Thank you for the info on the Meyer & Wenthe token. Does it look as though it might have been gilded originally? Here is the reverse pic.

    It does appear to have been guided. Nice storecard!

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

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