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Could we see transgender MLB players soon? Any thoughts on this subject? Or Any Major Sport? Would love to have some feedback on this. I know boxing had a transgender fighter. Please be respectful! I'm hearing a minor league team is forming a transgender ball club.

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  • GoldenageGoldenage Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Who cares. Who cares if they’re black, white, Jewish, Christian, etc.

    We pay to see athletes perform. We don’t care about too much else.

    The only issue is allowing a Caitlyn Jenner type to compete with women. They male body usually has an advantage over a female body.

  • Like the male power lifter for the girl's team. Lol

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m against it 100%. It has nothing to do with anything other than I think Males have an advantage, nothing more and nothing less, I truly don’t care what personal decisions an adult makes. Do I think it will happen? I think some females turned male will try out for one of the 4 major sports but will fail.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

  • GoldenageGoldenage Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    And there have always been adulterers and orgy lovers too.

    Why so many feel the urge to tell the rest of the world what they like to do in their bedroom is strange to me.

    Transgender is a physical issue that needs to be discussed, because it can cause an unfair advantage.

    Being straight or gay has only to do with what style you prefer in the privacy of your own home. Please keep it there. It has absolutely nothing to do with sports.

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    I'm addressing the community of T. Transgender that falls under this category as a whole.
    But since you're saying I'm addressing every other..... what's your take? I didn't ask to fight.... But you commented on my intentions which were wrong. What's your opinion?

  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's starting when they're kids. How would you like your daughter playing against a transgender male?

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I echo what perkdog said, I don't have any problems with how an adult chooses to live their life, but a male body against a female body isn't a fair competition, the male body has the advantage every time.

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭

    @Goldenage said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    And there have always been adulterers and orgy lovers too.

    Why so many feel the urge to tell the rest of the world what they like to do in their bedroom is strange to me.

    Transgender is a physical issue that needs to be discussed, because it can cause an unfair advantage.

    Being straight or gay has only to do with what style you prefer in the privacy of your own home. Please keep it there. It has absolutely nothing to do with sports.

    And we need to talk about it. Because if we can't talk about something people are prideful about in our sports..... Why even say on tv ads, magazines, media, social venues, schools, lol the future world. If it upsets someone .... Why even promote that very same name to others that don't agree with it?

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    I'm addressing the community of T. Transgender that falls under this category as a whole.
    But since you're saying I'm addressing every other..... what's your take? I didn't ask to fight.... But you commented on my intentions which were wrong. What's your opinion?

    @thisistheshow is a good guy and not looking for trouble.I Just want to throw that out there, although in my opinion the post header might have been more easily read if it was specific and you posted “Transgenders in sports” rather than LGBT since that is different than just addressing a Transgender question.

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭

    My apologies. But at least he could come back and say something to me instead of commenting on what I'm not wrong about. No hard feelings... Brother!

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2021 2:09PM

    @perkdog said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    I'm addressing the community of T. Transgender that falls under this category as a whole.
    But since you're saying I'm addressing every other..... what's your take? I didn't ask to fight.... But you commented on my intentions which were wrong. What's your opinion?

    @thisistheshow is a good guy and not looking for trouble.I Just want to throw that out there, although in my opinion the post header might have been more easily read if it was specific and you posted “Transgenders in sports” rather than LGBT since that is different than just addressing a Transgender question.

    But it can't be different if the title involves transgender. I hope you understand what I mean. If a country tells America, " we don't like you." That means the country! Black, white, purple aren't picked out. That's the group name.... L.B.G.T. and Q.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2021 2:19PM

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    I'm addressing the community of T. Transgender that falls under this category as a whole.
    But since you're saying I'm addressing every other..... what's your take? I didn't ask to fight.... But you commented on my intentions which were wrong. What's your opinion?

    Look at the title of the post , which is "LGBT and sports". I'm not looking to fight either. I was thinking that you were conflating the two things.

    Edited to add: I guess change the title to transgender in sports?

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭

    Geez! If it's that touchy of a subject that has to be picked apart, word by word..... Why even discuss it? If it's that taboo..... Why even show people a male powerlifting on a girl's weight lifting team ? A man that says he's a woman? If it hurts people that much to even whisper those words from a non L.G.B.T. member..... I feel sorry for the mindset of people who are for it. That's not pride..... That's insecurity of something you truly are supposed to believe in.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2021 2:25PM

    I didn't mean to come across the wrong way, I was just pointing something out. I'm sorry. Edited to add: I re-read my comment and can see how it might have been taken the wrong way. This is actually a complex issue and I was just trying to make that point before the conversation went off the rails ( meaning talking about gay athletes, etc).

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    I'm addressing the community of T. Transgender that falls under this category as a whole.
    But since you're saying I'm addressing every other..... what's your take? I didn't ask to fight.... But you commented on my intentions which were wrong. What's your opinion?

    @thisistheshow is a good guy and not looking for trouble.I Just want to throw that out there, although in my opinion the post header might have been more easily read if it was specific and you posted “Transgenders in sports” rather than LGBT since that is different than just addressing a Transgender question.

    But it can't be different if the title involves transgender. I hope you understand what I mean. If a country tells America, " we don't like you." That means the country! Black, white, purple aren't picked out. That's the group name.... L.B.G.T. and Q.

    I don’t follow the specifics to be honest, it’s all irrelevant to me since all I care about is if your either a good person or your not. As far as the letters you mentioned the T is the only one I’m against playing opposite sex sports. That’s all I got 🍻🇺🇸

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    I'm addressing the community of T. Transgender that falls under this category as a whole.
    But since you're saying I'm addressing every other..... what's your take? I didn't ask to fight.... But you commented on my intentions which were wrong. What's your opinion?

    @thisistheshow is a good guy and not looking for trouble.I Just want to throw that out there, although in my opinion the post header might have been more easily read if it was specific and you posted “Transgenders in sports” rather than LGBT since that is different than just addressing a Transgender question.

    But it can't be different if the title involves transgender. I hope you understand what I mean. If a country tells America, " we don't like you." That means the country! Black, white, purple aren't picked out. That's the group name.... L.B.G.T. and Q.

    LGBTQ is an umbrella term. LGBQ are already well integrated into sports. It is the the T that I thought you wanted to discuss. They can and should be talked about separately in this contact, in my opinion. One is sexual preference. One is gender.

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭

    No harm here. The only club I was ever in was hairclub for men..... And that was a failure lol.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Historicalwood71 said:
    Geez! If it's that touchy of a subject that has to be picked apart, word by word..... Why even discuss it? If it's that taboo..... Why even show people a male powerlifting on a girl's weight lifting team ? A man that says he's a woman? If it hurts people that much to even whisper those words from a non L.G.B.T. member..... I feel sorry for the mindset of people who are for it. That's not pride..... That's insecurity of something you truly are supposed to believe in.

    I think you are taking my comments the wrong way.

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    I'm addressing the community of T. Transgender that falls under this category as a whole.
    But since you're saying I'm addressing every other..... what's your take? I didn't ask to fight.... But you commented on my intentions which were wrong. What's your opinion?

    @thisistheshow is a good guy and not looking for trouble.I Just want to throw that out there, although in my opinion the post header might have been more easily read if it was specific and you posted “Transgenders in sports” rather than LGBT since that is different than just addressing a Transgender question.

    But it can't be different if the title involves transgender. I hope you understand what I mean. If a country tells America, " we don't like you." That means the country! Black, white, purple aren't picked out. That's the group name.... L.B.G.T. and Q.

    LGBTQ is an umbrella term. LGBQ are already well integrated into sports. It is the the T that I thought you wanted to discuss. They can and should be talked about separately in this contact, in my opinion. One is sexual preference. One is gender.

    I understand what you mean. I'm just ole fashioned I Guess. It's fine lol! Hope you are having a great day friend!!!👍

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2021 2:36PM

    I'm not a bad person... I'm trying to understand this as an older sports fan. I didn't ask to see a grown man powerlifting on a girl's team. I personally don't like it. It's not Right. Transgender or not. But I see what this has turned into. I'm not part of any political party.... I'm an older " American". I actually love people no matter what. Just seems to me, media shows this episode of a man powerlifting on a girl's team for publicity. I'm asking about baseball, because of a transgender team forming in baseball.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    I'm addressing the community of T. Transgender that falls under this category as a whole.
    But since you're saying I'm addressing every other..... what's your take? I didn't ask to fight.... But you commented on my intentions which were wrong. What's your opinion?

    @thisistheshow is a good guy and not looking for trouble.I Just want to throw that out there, although in my opinion the post header might have been more easily read if it was specific and you posted “Transgenders in sports” rather than LGBT since that is different than just addressing a Transgender question.

    But it can't be different if the title involves transgender. I hope you understand what I mean. If a country tells America, " we don't like you." That means the country! Black, white, purple aren't picked out. That's the group name.... L.B.G.T. and Q.

    LGBTQ is an umbrella term. LGBQ are already well integrated into sports. It is the the T that I thought you wanted to discuss. They can and should be talked about separately in this contact, in my opinion. One is sexual preference. One is gender.

    I understand what you mean. I'm just ole fashioned I Guess. It's fine lol! Hope you are having a great day friend!!!👍

    I'm as old fashioned as they come, so I understand you. I was just pointing out that the title of your thread implies that we are going to be discussing gays and lesbians in sports. I know that you meant to only talk abut transgender. So I was actually trying to help. But, as the internet can do, I only started things off track. As for my opinion, I think that transgender athletes can have unfair advantages. So I lean towards having separate leagues.

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    The OP is addressing two different topics. There are and there have always been lesbian, gay, and bisexual professional athletes. The t is for transgender.

    I'm addressing the community of T. Transgender that falls under this category as a whole.
    But since you're saying I'm addressing every other..... what's your take? I didn't ask to fight.... But you commented on my intentions which were wrong. What's your opinion?

    @thisistheshow is a good guy and not looking for trouble.I Just want to throw that out there, although in my opinion the post header might have been more easily read if it was specific and you posted “Transgenders in sports” rather than LGBT since that is different than just addressing a Transgender question.

    But it can't be different if the title involves transgender. I hope you understand what I mean. If a country tells America, " we don't like you." That means the country! Black, white, purple aren't picked out. That's the group name.... L.B.G.T. and Q.

    LGBTQ is an umbrella term. LGBQ are already well integrated into sports. It is the the T that I thought you wanted to discuss. They can and should be talked about separately in this contact, in my opinion. One is sexual preference. One is gender.

    I understand what you mean. I'm just ole fashioned I Guess. It's fine lol! Hope you are having a great day friend!!!👍

    I'm as old fashioned as they come, so I understand you. I was just pointing out that the title of your thread implies that we are going to be discussing gays and lesbians in sports. I know that you meant to only talk abut transgender. So I was actually trying to help. But, as the internet can do, I only started things off track. As for my opinion, I think that transgender athletes can have unfair advantages. So I lean towards having separate leagues.

    Love ya pal! No problem my man!!!! Always a friend.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Turn of The Screw.

  • Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2021 3:04PM

    @Hydrant said:
    The Turn of The Screw.

    Huh? Lol

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Historicalwood71 said:

    @Hydrant said:
    The Turn of The Screw.

    Huh? Lol

  • AFLfanAFLfan Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think this thread has proven why this is a better discussion to have in-person than on a message board, especially this one. Tough to determine tone in a post. Sorry, folks, but I'm going to close this one down...

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