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1897 Alaska Gold - what is this exactly?

CoinCoinsCoinCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭✭
edited June 22, 2021 12:38PM in U.S. Coin Forum


that's not my coin, but i've got one exactly like it here. looking to submit it but i can't figure out the catalog number. is it a so-called-dollar? any help is appreciated.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Isn't that one of Hart's coins of the west?

  • calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

    similar token is referenced in this link:

    http://calgoldcoin.com/oldhtml/alaska.htm

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  • CoinCoinsCoinCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭✭

    that's where i got the picture

    just looking for the catalog # so i can submit it :)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's similar to HK-838 and HK-850 but not exact.

    Let PCGS figure out the HK#

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2021 5:37PM

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Isn't that one of Hart's coins of the west?

    Yes....The reverse can be found in this set, sold by Heritage.
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/western-souvenir-gold/complete-me-hart-coins-of-the-golden-west-set-in-original-frame-total-36-tokens-/a/1251-6177.s#

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebeav said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Isn't that one of Hart's coins of the west?

    Yes....The reverse can be found in this set, sold by Heritage.
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/western-souvenir-gold/complete-me-hart-coins-of-the-golden-west-set-in-original-frame-total-36-tokens-/a/1251-6177.s#

    It almost seems like a mule. Isn't the reverse the one on the 1911 coin?

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @thebeav said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Isn't that one of Hart's coins of the west?

    Yes....The reverse can be found in this set, sold by Heritage.
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/western-souvenir-gold/complete-me-hart-coins-of-the-golden-west-set-in-original-frame-total-36-tokens-/a/1251-6177.s#

    It almost seems like a mule. Isn't the reverse the one on the 1911 coin?

    Anything is possible, but it's difficult to be sure. Burnie lists this 1897 obverse, but his reverse, while quite similar to this one, has the word 'pinch' added.

  • FishproFishpro Posts: 377 ✭✭✭

    You don’t need the number to send it to PCGS, they will do it for you.

  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2021 10:29PM

    PCGS won't slab this but across the street will. And only them. You might find out its value by looking at GC auctions, as one just sold there a month or so ago. Heritage also sold several of them.

    My guess is your coin is XF details. Should bring about $500. If it goes AU details or straight grade, then way more.

    These were made for the PanPac exposition around 1915.

    Surf

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1897-Dated Alaska "ONE" Head Left, 16 Stars Round 14.4mm NGC AU Details

    Search that on GC

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SurfinxHI said:
    PCGS won't slab this but across the street will. And only them. You might find out its value by looking at GC auctions, as one just sold there a month or so ago. Heritage also sold several of them.

    My guess is your coin is XF details. Should bring about $500. If it goes AU details or straight grade, then way more.

    These were made for the PanPac exposition around 1915.

    Surf

    The OP did not post a picture of his coin.

  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @SurfinxHI said:
    PCGS won't slab this but across the street will. And only them. You might find out its value by looking at GC auctions, as one just sold there a month or so ago. Heritage also sold several of them.

    My guess is your coin is XF details. Should bring about $500. If it goes AU details or straight grade, then way more.

    These were made for the PanPac exposition around 1915.

    Surf

    The OP did not post a picture of his coin.

    yes, but he said he had one "exactly like it!" so....I can only assume that it is "exactly like it"!

    relax....my post was to give him information, that is all.

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SurfinxHI said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @SurfinxHI said:
    PCGS won't slab this but across the street will. And only them. You might find out its value by looking at GC auctions, as one just sold there a month or so ago. Heritage also sold several of them.

    My guess is your coin is XF details. Should bring about $500. If it goes AU details or straight grade, then way more.

    These were made for the PanPac exposition around 1915.

    Surf

    The OP did not post a picture of his coin.

    yes, but he said he had one "exactly like it!" so....I can only assume that it is "exactly like it"!

    relax....my post was to give him information, that is all.

    Lol. I'm relaxed. I was just pointing out that you offered a grade opinion on a coin not shown.

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whoa whoaa, just calm down a little! Everything will be okay 😜

    Hey, is that copper underneath the high points where the gold plating has worn away? 🤔

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  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Baley said:
    Whoa whoaa, just calm down a little! Everything will be okay 😜

    Hey, is that copper underneath the high points where the gold plating has worn away? 🤔

    No, it is gold. I looked very hard at that as well (and I had it tested.....). Oh, I mean....if that coin was mine and all...

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SurfinxHI said:

    @Baley said:
    Whoa whoaa, just calm down a little! Everything will be okay 😜

    Hey, is that copper underneath the high points where the gold plating has worn away? 🤔

    No, it is gold. I looked very hard at that as well (and I had it tested.....). Oh, I mean....if that coin was mine and all...

    Aren't they only 14k? Quite possible for them to tone copper.

  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2021 5:56PM

    if I remember correctly, it tested 20-22k ish. could be plenty of copper in there.

    I was more worried about it being the real deal (e.g. a real token) than a knock-off cal gold type.

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 6,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is one At Great Collections under "tokens"

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