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Hand Cut technique - what works best?

Any of you out there have a history of getting high grades on hand cut cards? If yes, what's the best method?

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  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thehallmark said:
    Any of you out there have a history of getting high grades on hand cut cards? If yes, what's the best method?

    Exact-o knife and a steady hand…



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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    X-acto 12" laser paper trimmer

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nam812 said:
    X-acto 12" laser paper trimmer

    That’s cheating!!!

    😂😂😂

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  • fmclaug11fmclaug11 Posts: 326 ✭✭✭

    I used this on a bunch of 1955 All American Sports Club uncut sheets and did pretty well with it. Those are pretty thin paper stock so not sure how it would do with regular baseball card thickness.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Metal ruler, good lighting, xacto knife and I use the zirconium blades, expensive, but worth it.

    That thing in the post above will be hit and miss, when the blade gets a little dull, it will tear the card.

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  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    Odd, that the most important thing of all in producing as close to a "perfect" cut isn't being discussed. That is, the trajectory of the cut. The way the hand/wrist is held and the draw of the elbow. The "kata", or "dance" of the parts of the body manipulate the cut. The angle of the cut is very important. Card mechanics have close to mastered it. In fact, the WAY the cut the card can narrow down the ID of the trimmer who performed it.

  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    @fmclaug11 said:
    I used this on a bunch of 1955 All American Sports Club uncut sheets and did pretty well with it. Those are pretty thin paper stock so not sure how it would do with regular baseball card thickness.

    No. It will not do well. You may be able to luckily produce one decent cut that doesn't look as though cut by shearing action, but #11s or a guillotine-like blade apparatus will produce vastly superior results to Mr. Snippy here or any other scissors action type cutter.

    Also, #11s dull quickly, especially for 7 to 14" draws on cereal box or similar stock. A fresh blade should be used for each one.

  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭

    Great info so far - thanks very much!

    What about grading standards? When the perforated "chads" are involved - what does PSA want that to look like? Do the chads need to be even all the way across the edge? Or is it best to chop them off too?

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thehallmark said:
    Great info so far - thanks very much!

    What about grading standards? When the perforated "chads" are involved - what does PSA want that to look like? Do the chads need to be even all the way across the edge? Or is it best to chop them off too?

    I once cut a perforated card leaving some of the chad and card was rejected as "evid of trim" thought that was stupid.

    Now on perforated cards, I bend them back and forth very carefully and tear them apart.

    I have seen a few perforated cards that were obviously cut that got grades though.

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  • soxaddictsoxaddict Posts: 256 ✭✭✭

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @nam812 said:
    X-acto 12" laser paper trimmer

    That’s cheating!!!

    😂😂😂

    Update: X-ACTO 12" laser paper trimmer out of stock everywhere :D

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mo_Mentum said:

    Also, #11s dull quickly, especially for 7 to 14" draws on cereal box or similar stock. A fresh blade should be used for each one.

    That's why I went to the new zirconium blade, they are amazing..................and I still change them often.

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  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    @soxaddict said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @nam812 said:
    X-acto 12" laser paper trimmer

    That’s cheating!!!

    😂😂😂

    Update: X-ACTO 12" laser paper trimmer out of stock everywhere :D

    Ironically, I've heard anecdotes about, "they can cut cards with lasers now", since lasers were first used commercially.

    Has anyone ever seen a card allegedly cut with a laser? I mean a standard many-ply paper/cardboard card stock Topps issue, from the 50s or 60s?

    I never have. I've never been shown a vintage card that someone trimmed with a laser, and unfortunately, I've never had access to one to be able to experiment, to see the results of exposing the edge of those paper plies to heat strong enough to cut them.

    And depending upon the location of those plies, if different layers of that cardboard "cake" would singe at different rates, or if the edge would simply catch fire or/and 'crisp".

    It certainly would be interesting to see how those cards and edges would react to that level of heat.

  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mo_Mentum said:

    Also, #11s dull quickly, especially for 7 to 14" draws on cereal box or similar stock. A fresh blade should be used for each one.

    That's why I went to the new zirconium blade, they are amazing..................and I still change them often.

    That's old technology. Passe'. You have to try the newly available Adamantium blades. It's the same material Wolverine's claws are made of. They make a neat "Snikttttt" sound when drawn across paper! :)

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2021 3:18PM

    @thehallmark said:
    Great info so far - thanks very much!

    What about grading standards? When the perforated "chads" are involved - what does PSA want that to look like? Do the chads need to be even all the way across the edge? Or is it best to chop them off too?

    Reverse engineer the card from a high grade example.

    With nothing to go by for the ‘68 Topps Posters box cut card above (highest graded), I just tried to create something beautiful with clean cut edges and leave the perforation as is; I think that tends to be the way to go for perforated card edges, in general.

    Here’s some shots from the raw and cut stage:




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  • Hoping someone would bring up this subject.

    I've got 9 uncut sheets of the '84 Nestle cards with Mattingly on them. Would love to get these cut up. I have some other uncut sheets of lesser value cards I could practice on, but wondering if anyone here has success doing it.

    Also, I have a stack of S.I. for Kids sheets. Four with the Tiger Woods, three with Tony Hawk, and one each of Michael Jordan, Mia Hamm, LeBron James. I tried separating one of the sheets and was not happy with the result. What's the secret?

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mo_Mentum said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mo_Mentum said:

    Also, #11s dull quickly, especially for 7 to 14" draws on cereal box or similar stock. A fresh blade should be used for each one.

    That's why I went to the new zirconium blade, they are amazing..................and I still change them often.

    That's old technology. Passe'. You have to try the newly available Adamantium blades. It's the same material Wolverine's claws are made of. They make a neat "Snikttttt" sound when drawn across paper! :)

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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ColoradoCollector said:
    Hoping someone would bring up this subject.

    I've got 9 uncut sheets of the '84 Nestle cards with Mattingly on them. Would love to get these cut up. I have some other uncut sheets of lesser value cards I could practice on, but wondering if anyone here has success doing it.

    Also, I have a stack of S.I. for Kids sheets. Four with the Tiger Woods, three with Tony Hawk, and one each of Michael Jordan, Mia Hamm, LeBron James. I tried separating one of the sheets and was not happy with the result. What's the secret?

    Metal ruler, good lighting, xacto knife and I use the zirconium blades, expensive, but worth it, on perforated cards, I bend them back and forth very carefully and tear them apart.

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