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Could this be A new Lincoln cent variety or one of a kind

I have come across a 1996 Lincoln cent which looks like a circulated Philadelphia mint on the obverse and on the reverse it is a proof strike it has a rotated die error possible wide am error if not it could be a double die that makes it look like a.m. but also note that it is also missing the designer initials is it worth keeping having graded
https://youtu.be/QLSJrhxNZ78

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When you flipped the coin over at the 0:42 mark there is something wrong with the edge of the coin. Home made magicians coin? Your video shows no detail so really need close up pictures of the obverse, reverse, and EDGE of cent will be needed. Oh, and your coin now has fingerprints on it from being handled that way.

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  • bowtechredneckbowtechredneck Posts: 32
    edited June 8, 2021 3:18PM

    I know what your referring to it's the edge were it's not aligned from rotated error I think I pulled this coin out of circulation why would someone go through the ordeal to not keep it it's a real deal I will post some pictures

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only hold a coin by its edges!

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I watched the trailer. That coin looks like it's been messed with, maybe in multiple ways.

  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your coin has been tampered with. Probably a magicians coin.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @USSID17 said:
    Your coin has been tampered with. Probably a magicians coin.

    Great picture @USSID17 !

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  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you @Steven59, thank you very much.

  • I don't believe it's a magician's coin it has multiple errors and with further examination noticed Lincoln wasn't even on the memorial and floating roof errors I have seen coins were they had been pressed with the die looking like this one I come here for opinion from folks that know alittle more or are professional collectors my previous posts I was wrong but yes it's got to me like every error that exists on one side if it's to good to be true it's not they say I'm excited to find coins like this especially when I don't know what I'm really looking for but please help me out here don't knock it saying it's been tampered with or magician's coin cause you can't believe it help me figure it out I'm just a poor boy new to the hobby I'll post pictures





  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    then send it to a grading company and see what they say then, i doubt they will agree with you

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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the others. The cent looks tampered with. I'm also not sure how you coukd get a philly minted obverse and a san fransisco minted proof reverse. Also, have you ever tried using punctuation in your sentences?

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first thought was a magicians coin too.

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bowtechredneck said:
    but please help me out here don't knock it saying it's been tampered with or magician's coin cause you can't believe it

    People aren't saying it's been tampered with because they can't believe it's an error, they're saying that because they don't believe it's an error.

  • Ok maybe I should have said it looks to me as a proof reverse. could be from grease ECT I'm not the expert. But it's very shiny with mirror on reverse. Sorry it does sound impossible having two separate mint sides on one coin. So what could have caused this over polished die. Or possibly a no S Lincoln cent

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse says counterfeit

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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bowtechredneck said:
    Ok maybe I should have said it looks to me as a proof reverse. could be from grease ECT I'm not the expert. But it's very shiny with mirror on reverse. Sorry it does sound impossible having two separate mint sides on one coin. So what could have caused this over polished die. Or possibly a no S Lincoln cent

    As others have mentioned, your cent looks like a magicians coin. It looks like a seam around the rim of the reverse. Also, the reverse is either a fake or it has been plated with something.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I vote fake reverse too - totally wrong memorial building detail and wrong letter font. Other than that it's fine - LOL!

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  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This looks like a seam, two coins put together. Bounce it off a hard surface. It will probably come apart.

    Like this one....

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it's fake. Maybe a magician's coin, maybe just an aliexpress fake. The Mint never struck a reverse like that even after a two-keg Christmas party.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2021 6:52PM

    On closer examination I agree the reverse is fake, and your pictures clearly show a seam.

    The only error is the way you are holding it. :*

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,165 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    it's fake. Maybe a magician's coin, maybe just an aliexpress fake. The Mint never struck a reverse like that even after a two-keg Christmas party.

    A fake magician’s coin... so a REAL error??!!!

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  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bowtechredneck said:
    ..... I come here for opinion from folks that know alittle more or are professional collectors my previous posts I was wrong but yes...

    Are you saying that the people responding to this post don't know much, or aren't professional because they don't agree with your opinion?

    @bowtechredneck said:
    ......don't knock it saying it's been tampered with or magician's coin cause you can't believe it ......

    People are saying it's been altered because it's been altered. They are basing their comments on their knowledge of the minting process, not some arbitrary guess

    Also, please add some punctuation and do a quick proof read before you post. Nothing to do with being Grammar Police, it's just that your posts are difficult follow. If it's hard to understand, many people will skip over it and there's a chance you'll miss out on good information.

    Finally, you asked for opinions and the group supplied them (I also feel that it's altered). If you still don't agree, you should send it in to be authenticated. IMO, that would be a waste of $$ but the choice is yours.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You have an altered cent... as several members have stated above. It could not have been minted at the U.S. Mint.. Take a sharp knife to the edge where the seam is and it will separate. Cheers, RickO

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Drop it into a strong drinking glass and slosh it back and forth a little. The pieces should separate.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If not a magician coin (could likely be) the reverse looks polished instead.

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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's the obverse of one coin and the reverse of another coin. The two coins were milled down on a machine shop milling machine to fit one inside the other. A proof used for the reverse and a regular business strike used for the obverse.

    This guy will show you how it's done, including making a customized holder for the coin.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @divecchia said:
    A proof used for the reverse

    that's a counterfeit reverse

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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2021 9:53AM

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @divecchia said:
    A proof used for the reverse

    that's a counterfeit reverse

    I see. The reverse is missing the initials and Lincoln is missing in the Memorial.

    Edited to add: I saw the seem on the reverse and called it a day.

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