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doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

Will he show up?

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The Packers sent a public message to Aaron Rodgers over the weekend. This week he gets his opportunity to respond.

Over the weekend, when Green Bay Packers president Mark Murphy addressed fan questions in his monthly exchange on the team website, there was some public messaging that resonated loudly in the team’s impasse with quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

The most headline-grabby statement from Murphy about his star quarterback — which came in somewhat unprompted fashion — was that the situation with Rodgers has divided the fan base. It was an interesting, albeit unscientific point of reflection. But further into his exchange with fans, Murphy shared two far more important pieces of information. First, the Packers aren’t budging on keeping Rodgers in the fold “in 2021 and beyond." And second, Murphy made a point of giving general manager Brian Gutekunst his full backing, to the point that he even appeared to credit the GM for fielding some of the Pro Bowl players that were drafted by Gutekunst’s predecessor, Ted Thompson.

Make no mistake, there was a message in all of this. One that makes the franchise’s stance clear just days before Tuesday kickoff of mandatory minicamp: Green Bay’s decision-makers are dug in when it comes to Rodgers. He’s not going anywhere.

Tuesday, Rodgers gets his chance to respond. And that response will lack any ambiguity.

Either Rodgers shows up in time for this week’s practices, which would effectively end any pursuit of a trade, or he skips the camp entirely, which would ratchet up pressure to resolve the impasse heading into the break before training camp opens in late July. Given that Rodgers has skipped organized team activities this offseason and that Murphy just addressed the alleged fan divide over the issue, it would be a bigger surprise for Rodgers to attend than to bypass the camp.

Aaron Rodgers will send a big message this week, whether he attends Packers training camp or not.
But his lack of attendance would also be his biggest statement yet in the saga, which has been simmering since the end of the season but only featured one public statement of vague unhappiness by the quarterback in May. Skipping mandatory camp for the first time in his 16-year career — and potentially incurring a $93,085 fine in the process — would be his most committed statement of the offseason. One that says (with both his body and his money) to the Packers: I’m just as dug in as you are.

What it really means in the larger picture is debatable. The Packers have already endured all this for more than a month, and the nature of the questions about Rodgers won’t really change if he’s not in minicamp. The team’s leaders have already admitted that there is a problem and they believe they’re working to fix it. That philosophy doesn’t have to change this week, even if it means the league’s MVP isn’t around to work with his teammates.

Instead, what the Packers can do — and likely will do if Rodgers is absent — is the same thing they’ve been doing since organized team activities have started. They’ll talk about second-year quarterback Jordan Love and highlight whatever progress he’s making with the first-team offense. They’ll deflect questions about Rodgers by saying they’re working to fix the problem. And they’ll rinse and repeat what Murphy already said publicly last weekend, that Rodgers is the planned starter for 2021 and that Gutekunst has the support of the franchise.

Realistically, the person whose stance gets most amplified or altered this week is Rodgers himself. Especially if he declines to attend minicamp. First, he'll have showcased his resolve in the most resounding way he can in an offseason: by simply not spending any time in the team’s offseason infrastructure. That’s a loud statement, especially from the league's MVP. Second, it will set the stage for the team’s break before training camp, turning the remainder of the offseason into an anxiety-ridden contemplation about whether Rodgers will sit out of training camp, too.

Perhaps the most interesting wrinkle is what ends up happening on the field this week if Rodgers isn’t in attendance. If Love showcases significant strides running the Packers offense — and with reporters actually witnessing it rather than hearing about it — then there’s a chance the Packers could go into the break before training camp either more emboldened to hold onto Rodgers, or more willing to consider trading him. Conversely, if Love spends minicamp illustrating that he’s not close to taking over for Rodgers, it’s going to create multiple pressure points on both Murphy and Gutekunst. Not only will the media and fan base know the Packers are not ready to lose Rodgers, but the coaching staff will both know it and then have to walk a tightrope answering for it.

If that sounds like a lot riding on one minicamp, it’s because it is. For the Packers, their front office, their second-year quarterback and their coaching staff. One way or another, this is going to be a memorable week in Green Bay. Either one that repairs the franchise in the coming months, or breaks it entirely.

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  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 7, 2021 8:00AM

    doesnt show.

    or shows up, leaves very quickly.

    same thing, basically.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think he'll show up either, this should be very interesting. I don't think this cowboy will ride into town!

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    I don't think he'll show up either, this should be very interesting. I don't think this cowboy will ride into town!

    dallas, we have a problem!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't wait to see if that pilgrim has the guts to ride into town!

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Chico Kid rides alone.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    I don't think he'll show up either, this should be very interesting. I don't think this cowboy will ride into town!

    I knew it Double D!!!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @doubledragon said:
    I don't think he'll show up either, this should be very interesting. I don't think this cowboy will ride into town!

    I knew it Double D!!!

    Looking forward to tomorrow, can't wait to see if Texas Pete shows up!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Super Mario looking clown.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would you show up for work if your girlfriend looked like this? 😂

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, tomorrow's the big day pilgrim.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    DD is now fast asleep, dreaming about Aaron Rodgers and his destiny.

    Maybe in his dream, DD is the agent of Rodgers and helped him land a fat contract.

    😉

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    DD is now fast asleep, dreaming about Aaron Rodgers and his destiny.

    Maybe in his dream, DD is the agent of Rodgers and helped him land a fat contract.

    😉

    Yes, I had a good night sleep, and I've been looking forward to this day my whole life. When I was a little dragon, my pappy sat me up on his knee, looked at me, and said, "son, some day a diva by the name of Aaron Rodgers is going cause a huge mess for the Packers with his selfishness and you need to be ready for that moment". That moment is here, and I'm ready. I got a good night's sleep and today is the big day, a day known as..... mandantory minicamp day. It's Rodgers vs the Packers, high noon, time for the showdown.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He's just like that dog in Mexico that crashed the pope's parade, Rodgers thinks it's all about him.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Packers CEO Mark Murphy said a few days ago that the situation with Aaron Rodgers has divided the Packers fan base.

    Packers president/CEO Mark Murphy: Aaron Rodgers situation 'has divided our fan base'

    Any time the future of an all-time great hangs in the balance, the eventual resolution will have an impact on nearly everyone attached to said player.

    With the uncertainty surrounding Aaron Rodgers continuing to loom large, Packers president and CEO Mark Murphy shared on Saturday that the ongoing saga has taken a toll on the Green Bay faithful.

    "The situation we face with Aaron Rodgers has divided our fan base," Murphy wrote in his monthly column for Packers.com. "The emails and letters that I've received reflect this fact. As I wrote here last month, we remain committed to resolving things with Aaron and want him to be our quarterback in 2021 and beyond. We are working to resolve the situation and realize that the less both sides say publicly, the better."

    Since reports of the star quarterback's private displeasure with the club became public on draft day, there has been no shortage of speculation, discussion and criticism as it relates to the 37-year-old's relationship with team brass.

    Rodgers' decision to skip voluntary OTAs certainly did nothing to quell such chatter. Nor did Matt LaFleur saying last week that he doesn't know if the future Hall of Famer will attend mandatory minicamp when it opens June 8.

    Despite the apparent disconnect between all parties, Murphy was not shy about voicing his support for general manager Brian Gutekunst, who will continue to play a pivotal role in this situation in the coming months.

    "I have tremendous confidence in Brian Gutekunst," he stated. "In his relatively short tenure as our GM, he has completely turned around the fortunes of our team. He has put together a talented team (last year we had the most players voted to the Pro Bowl) that has a 28-8 record over the last two years, after consecutive losing seasons in 2017 and 2018, and has played in back-to-back NFC Championship games. Moreover, he has a great working relationship with Head Coach Matt LaFleur. He and EVP/director of football operations Russ Ball have managed our salary cap smartly and have us well positioned for the future."

    Murphy, Gutekunst and LaFleur have expectedly not wavered in their desire to keep Rodgers in town. But, as the offseason continues to roll, it remains unclear how this will play out.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If Rodgers doesn't show up today, then this will really set the stage for whether he'll show up to training camp.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    Would you show up for work if your girlfriend looked like this? 😂

    is this the actor, miles teller back there?

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keleigh Sperry certainly looks good. Maybe it’s a bad pic, but Aaron’s girlfriend looks pretty average here.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PaulMaul said:
    Keleigh Sperry certainly looks good. Maybe it’s a bad pic, but Aaron’s girlfriend looks pretty average here.

    Yes, but the benefit is with a nose that big, if they got lost in the wilderness there, like a hound dog she could find the way back to civilization.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    DD is now fast asleep, dreaming about Aaron Rodgers and his destiny.

    Maybe in his dream, DD is the agent of Rodgers and helped him land a fat contract.

    😉

    Yes, I had a good night sleep, and I've been looking forward to this day my whole life. When I was a little dragon, my pappy sat me up on his knee, looked at me, and said, "son, some day a diva by the name of Aaron Rodgers is going cause a huge mess for the Packers with his selfishness and you need to be ready for that moment". That moment is here, and I'm ready. I got a good night's sleep and today is the big day, a day known as..... mandantory minicamp day. It's Rodgers vs the Packers, high noon, time for the showdown.

    Your moment reminds me of Al Bundy's moment...his destiny.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL2YRDzpTL4

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    DD is now fast asleep, dreaming about Aaron Rodgers and his destiny.

    Maybe in his dream, DD is the agent of Rodgers and helped him land a fat contract.

    😉

    Yes, I had a good night sleep, and I've been looking forward to this day my whole life. When I was a little dragon, my pappy sat me up on his knee, looked at me, and said, "son, some day a diva by the name of Aaron Rodgers is going cause a huge mess for the Packers with his selfishness and you need to be ready for that moment". That moment is here, and I'm ready. I got a good night's sleep and today is the big day, a day known as..... mandantory minicamp day. It's Rodgers vs the Packers, high noon, time for the showdown.

    Your moment reminds me of Al Bundy's moment...his destiny.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL2YRDzpTL4

    I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really wanting a Ferguson right now!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2021 7:09AM

    This wait is nerve-racking, I can't take much more of this!

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What exactly are you waiting on @doubledragon ? He's holding out.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:
    What exactly are you waiting on @doubledragon ? He's holding out.

    I was just waiting for the word to officially come down the pipeline, and it has.

    Aaron Rodgers doesn't report to Packers mandatory minicamp

    It's official: Aaron Rodgers is holding out of mandatory minicamp.

    NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Tuesday morning that Rodgers was not present at the start of the Packers' 8:30 a.m. team meeting to kick off minicamp, per a source informed of the situation.

    The news has been expected for weeks as Rodgers skipped offseason workouts amid his displeasure with the organization.

    Missing all three days of mandatory minicamp subjects Rodgers to fines of $93,085. Given that he's already jeopardized a $500,000 workout bonus by missing OTAs and other workouts, Rodgers isn't likely to be swayed by the relatively minuscule fines. The wallet-hurting penalties don't come until training camp, which kicks off July 27.

    After skipping all voluntary workouts this spring, Tuesday's minicamp is the first mandatory workday Rodgers will miss, allowing us to declare him a holdout officially.

    With Rodgers absent, Jordan Love will get his chance to guide the full offense. The receiving corps, including Davante Adams, is expected at minicamp, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport previously reported. After last offseason was scrapped, it's Love's first chance to guide the first-team offense for a lengthy stretch.

    Back when Brett Favre famously skipped offseason workouts, the Packers used those opportunities to evaluate Rodgers and prepare for his future at the helm. History is repeating itself, with Rodgers' holdout allowing Green Bay to better evaluate Love.

    With Rodgers officially skipping mandatory minicamp, we've passed the first true offseason milepost. The next big date comes in July when training camp kicks off. That's when we'll really see whether Rodgers plans to put the organization's feet to the fire.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2021 8:39AM

    With Rodgers officially skipping mandatory minicamp, we've passed the first true offseason milepost. The next big date comes in July when training camp kicks off. That's when we'll really see whether Rodgers plans to put the organization's feet to the fire.

    DD, I predict sleepless nights and a nervous breakdown in your future

    m

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've been following the news and there's a ten mile wide asteroid expected to impact the earth shortly. However I've had no time to worry about that, with this Aaron Rodgers crisis still unfolding.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    With Rodgers officially skipping mandatory minicamp, we've passed the first true offseason milepost. The next big date comes in July when training camp kicks off. That's when we'll really see whether Rodgers plans to put the organization's feet to the fire.

    DD, I predict sleepless nights and a nervous breakdown in your future

    m

    Oh, I'm looking forward to training camp day, I'm licking my chops for that one. That will be the granddaddy of them all, the drama and suspense has already got me excited!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've got it marked down on my calendar, July 27th, that's the big day, Training Camp Day. This is going to be the ultimate drama, the granddaddy of them all, my super bowl.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I were the Packers, I would fine him for this little stunt. I want him fined, and I want it now!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder where that clown was today while his team is getting ready, if I had to guess, I'd say Aaron Rodgers was probably in Kikiwawi, singing karaoke with his big nosed girlfriend, but that's none of my business!

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • AFLfanAFLfan Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    C'mon, guys... Let's take a step back on the girlfriend comments. You guys are better than that.

    Todd Tobias - Grateful Collector - I focus on autographed American Football League sets, Fleer & Topps, 1960-1969, and lacrosse cards.
  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I feel as though he won't play for the Packers again.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2021 11:12AM

    @stevek said:
    DD is now fast asleep, dreaming about Aaron Rodgers and his destiny.

    Maybe in his dream, DD is the insurance agent of Rodgers and helped him land a fat contract that includes the Rodgers Rate.

    😉

    I fixed that for you. ;) DD dreams about being Jake from State Farm.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x72l80Ixxhw
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    PLOT TWIST!!!! What iff DD is really Drake from State Farm?!?!?!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKg66q1zEuw

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AFLfan said:
    C'mon, guys... Let's take a step back on the girlfriend comments. You guys are better than that.

    No problem Todd, no more girlfriend jokes, won't happen again.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @stevek said:
    DD is now fast asleep, dreaming about Aaron Rodgers and his destiny.

    Maybe in his dream, DD is the insurance agent of Rodgers and helped him land a fat contract that includes the Rodgers Rate.

    😉

    I fixed that for you. ;) DD dreams about being Jake from State Farm.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x72l80Ixxhw
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    PLOT TWIST!!!! What iff DD is really Drake from State Farm?!?!?!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKg66q1zEuw

    I hate those corny commercials. If I were the Packers, I would fine him, I want that man fined, and I want it now!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember Russell Wilson was making a bit of a stink out there in Seattle recently himself. I wonder if he'll be the next to pull an Aaron Rodgers.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All this energy, attention, focus and anticipation over whether Rogers would show up at the start time today for the "mandatory minicamp".

    He did not show up.

    Time marches on and next up is the date and time the preseason camp opens next month. The events leading up to today's no show will replicate themselves next month.

    Meh.

    Also, who cares about what Rogers does off the field, who he hangs out with and who he dates?????

    I hope that things progress to the point where Rogers leaves Green Bay and arrives at training camp 2021 for my favorite team, the Denver Broncos. The Donkeys need to bring in a veterans QB with established skills instead of having to get Joe Blow QB's each year in the hopes that one of them will actually stick and be good for the franchise.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the real problem is both sides. it's crazy that a team w/ the history of the packers and a guy like rodgers are airing their laundry publicly like this. i get it for some more of the flashier guys and franchises, but not this duo.

    i kinda get both sides, but then i dont.

    i will say that i lost a ton of respect for rodgers when he said to a random fan that he'd bet his next paycheck if braun ended up testing posi for peds. i get standing up for your hometown bud, but he shoulda paid the man. a $200k check for one game of work vs keeping his word. i woulda liked the guy more for honoring his bet. refusing to honor his word loses any i did have.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope Green Bay doesn’t budge, let this guy sit out the entire Season.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2021 2:45PM

    i cant stop thinking about this scene in the movie "life" w/ those mustache cowboy pics.

    fwd to 4:10 mark:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKHdqPM7d_c

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Honestly, I don't understand why the guy just doesn't do his job, he signed a contract for ridiculous money, now go do your job. Perhaps he can go host Jeopardy if he doesn't get his way, or perhaps he can go be a contestant on Jeopardy and wow us with his knowledge. Here's one for you big daddy, I'll take sports for $500.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If Rodgers sits the NFC is going to come down to 3 teams
    Tampa
    LA Rams
    SF 49ers

    We are going to see if it was Detroit or Stafford. If Jimmy G stays healthy and if TB has one more year in him.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    Honestly, I don't understand why the guy just doesn't do his job, he signed a contract for ridiculous money, now go do your job. Perhaps he can go host Jeopardy if he doesn't get his way, or perhaps he can go be a contestant on Jeopardy and wow us with his knowledge. Here's one for you big daddy, I'll take sports for $500.

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have let it be known here before that I am not a Rodgers fan. I think a lot of that comes from comparing him to Brady. Rodgers hasn't been the teammate that Brady is. Hasn't been coachable. Hasn't improved his game, taking it to the next level. And hasn't inspired others the same way.

    I do feel it is necessary to point out one fact regarding this holdout that I think makes Rodgers look to have a bit of an argument. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Green Bay has not drafted an offensive player in the first round over the last ten years.....except for the one year they moved up to take a QB. I can see how this rubs him the wrong way. Yes, he has had good teams. I know. They've had weapons. As far as I know, he is upset about the drafting. Nonetheless, I am not a Rodgers fan. For all of his talent, I don't see him as the leader and warrior that a team needs to truly dominate.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2021 8:03AM

    I have read a lot of reports that Rodgers has been upset by his lack of say in decision making. He didn't like the move made with his QB coach. I can only speculate with my observations, but I have always seen Rodgers as being more passive aggressive than take charge. Maybe he hasn't been steering the ship, and all of a sudden he wants to?

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:
    I have let it be known here before that I am not a Rodgers fan. I think a lot of that comes from comparing him to Brady. Rodgers hasn't been the teammate that Brady is. Hasn't been coachable. Hasn't improved his game, taking it to the next level. And hasn't inspired others the same way.

    I do feel it is necessary to point out one fact regarding this holdout that I think makes Rodgers look to have a bit of an argument. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Green Bay has not drafted an offensive player in the first round over the last ten years.....except for the one year they moved up to take a QB. I can see how this rubs him the wrong way. Yes, he has had good teams. I know. They've had weapons. As far as I know, he is upset about the drafting. Nonetheless, I am not a Rodgers fan. For all of his talent, I don't see him as the leader and warrior that a team needs to truly dominate.

    Talent wise, Rodgers is elite without question but he is a high maintenance and a non leader. He throws his guys under the bud and lays blame everywhere else than ever taking responsibility for anything. That being said I can understand being frustrated with them drafting Love over another WR but to take it to the level that he has and utterly destroy a legacy that is there for the taking is absurd. I cannot stand Rodgers, but his talent is on par with the other elite QB’s however I believe the Packers should not budge and if he wants to sit out or retire then let him.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    I have let it be known here before that I am not a Rodgers fan. I think a lot of that comes from comparing him to Brady. Rodgers hasn't been the teammate that Brady is. Hasn't been coachable. Hasn't improved his game, taking it to the next level. And hasn't inspired others the same way.

    I do feel it is necessary to point out one fact regarding this holdout that I think makes Rodgers look to have a bit of an argument. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Green Bay has not drafted an offensive player in the first round over the last ten years.....except for the one year they moved up to take a QB. I can see how this rubs him the wrong way. Yes, he has had good teams. I know. They've had weapons. As far as I know, he is upset about the drafting. Nonetheless, I am not a Rodgers fan. For all of his talent, I don't see him as the leader and warrior that a team needs to truly dominate.

    Talent wise, Rodgers is elite without question but he is a high maintenance and a non leader. He throws his guys under the bud and lays blame everywhere else than ever taking responsibility for anything. That being said I can understand being frustrated with them drafting Love over another WR but to take it to the level that he has and utterly destroy a legacy that is there for the taking is absurd. I cannot stand Rodgers, but his talent is on par with the other elite QB’s however I believe the Packers should not budge and if he wants to sit out or retire then let him.

    And again, he just looks bad when you compare it to how Brady did things as he left town. Brady appears to have taken control of his own destiny. But Rodgers looks to be a bit stuck in the muck.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I want him fined, I hope he evolves into Tony Romo!

  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is like Meghan Markle and the royal family.

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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:
    Hasn't improved his game, taking it to the next level.

    This is nonsense. He had a career-high QBR last year and career-high TD passes. He was clearly the best QB in the league last year. Brady threw 3 picks against GB in the playoffs and Tampa still scored 31.

    I can't stand Rodgers but his game is absolutely at the next level.

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