Weird eBay "scam" going around, sellers beware.

DelawareDoons · June 3, 2021 1:23PM

I am not sure if I should call this a scam but I really can't think of a better word for it.

I sold something on eBay earlier today, and about 5 minutes later, got a message requesting I cancel the sale. I went to cancel it when I suddenly noticed the username and location of the individual that requested the cancellation was NOT the same as the user that purchased the item! I have no idea what this individuals motivations are, but they are questionable at best!

braddick · June 3, 2021 1:35PM

That is nefarious. I can't imagine someone did so by accident. It is curious, though, as to their motivation other than to mess with you.
Thanks for the tap on the shoulder. Skullduggery like that is why I stopped selling on eBay. (I now strictly use consignment dealers.)

DelawareDoons · June 3, 2021 1:39PM

I assume they want to buy what I sold and are hoping I cancel and relist it before the actual buyer notices. Instead, I blocked them.

I cannot figure out what other motivation they have. And yes, what I sold was a decent deal and priced to move, but not an incredible deal. It is very shady.

Kurisu · June 3, 2021 1:52PM

@DelawareDoons said:
I assume they want to buy what I sold and are hoping I cancel and relist it before the actual buyer notices. Instead, I blocked them.

I cannot figure out what other motivation they have. And yes, what I sold was a decent deal and priced to move, but not an incredible deal. It is very shady.

That's the kind of thing I would inform ebay of... Request a call back from ebay and give them a heads up is what I would do.

DelawareDoons · June 3, 2021 2:06PM

@Kurisu said:

@DelawareDoons said:
I assume they want to buy what I sold and are hoping I cancel and relist it before the actual buyer notices. Instead, I blocked them.

I cannot figure out what other motivation they have. And yes, what I sold was a decent deal and priced to move, but not an incredible deal. It is very shady.

That's the kind of thing I would inform ebay of... Request a call back from ebay and give them a heads up is what I would do.

Already done. Just making everybody aware.

Username is chajew_48 by the way, from Vista, California.

Jimnight · June 3, 2021 2:10PM

Report it ... and thanks for sharing!

WAYNEAS · June 3, 2021 2:45PM

Thanks for the heads up.
Wayne

airplanenut · June 3, 2021 2:51PM

Out of curiosity, did that person bid on the item? Any chance they either saw it close above their bid while thinking they won (and thus they made a mistake) or they mixed up this with another item? That buyer has a fair amount of feedback, which means it seems like an established account, and usually I'd expect this kind of activity from a new burner account. For what it's worth, I had a buyer a week or two ago who held off paying until he got the invoice for the two coins he won... until I had to point out to him that he only won one of them. He promptly paid and apologized for the mix-up.

DelawareDoons · June 3, 2021 3:23PM

@airplanenut said:
Out of curiosity, did that person bid on the item? Any chance they either saw it close above their bid while thinking they won (and thus they made a mistake) or they mixed up this with another item? That buyer has a fair amount of feedback, which means it seems like an established account, and usually I'd expect this kind of activity from a new burner account. For what it's worth, I had a buyer a week or two ago who held off paying until he got the invoice for the two coins he won... until I had to point out to him that he only won one of them. He promptly paid and apologized for the mix-up.

This was a buy-it-now listing that sold about 20 minutes after I posted it.

I reached out to a seller that cancelled on me last week after I bought their item. I hadn't thought to ask for the username at the time but I did today. Surprise, it was the same user. I did re-buy the item after messaging this seller, but it was still a completely unnecessary pain in the rear and I almost left the seller a negative feedback while I was stewing over the cancellation.

braddick · June 3, 2021 3:44PM

@DelawareDoons said:

@Kurisu said:

@DelawareDoons said:
I assume they want to buy what I sold and are hoping I cancel and relist it before the actual buyer notices. Instead, I blocked them.

I cannot figure out what other motivation they have. And yes, what I sold was a decent deal and priced to move, but not an incredible deal. It is very shady.

That's the kind of thing I would inform ebay of... Request a call back from ebay and give them a heads up is what I would do.

Already done. Just making everybody aware.

Username is chajew_48 by the way, from Vista, California.

Ah, man- that's just a town over from me.
If it who I think it might be a decade or so ago he compiled an absolute killer typeset. I mean- sparkling GEM coins all across the board. Too bad he had to play with them (gunmetal bluing was his favorite) and generally lowered the value of his set to about 20% of what he had into them.

jmlanzaf · June 3, 2021 4:11PM

@DelawareDoons said:

@airplanenut said:
Out of curiosity, did that person bid on the item? Any chance they either saw it close above their bid while thinking they won (and thus they made a mistake) or they mixed up this with another item? That buyer has a fair amount of feedback, which means it seems like an established account, and usually I'd expect this kind of activity from a new burner account. For what it's worth, I had a buyer a week or two ago who held off paying until he got the invoice for the two coins he won... until I had to point out to him that he only won one of them. He promptly paid and apologized for the mix-up.

This was a buy-it-now listing that sold about 20 minutes after I posted it.

I reached out to a seller that cancelled on me last week after I bought their item. I hadn't thought to ask for the username at the time but I did today. Surprise, it was the same user. I did re-buy the item after messaging this seller, but it was still a completely unnecessary pain in the rear and I almost left the seller a negative feedback while I was stewing over the cancellation.

I'm not sure if be surprised. I think you have their motivation right there. They are apparently mad about the other transaction and are just screwing with you.

MsMorrisine · June 3, 2021 4:19PM

@jmlanzaf said:

I'm not sure if be surprised. I think you have their motivation right there. They are apparently mad about the other transaction and are just screwing with you.

Did he leave immediate feedback for you as a buyer?

davewesen · June 3, 2021 4:59PM

eBay getting sketchy, I hit a title in an email I received with no picture ... it said I bought it

DelawareDoons · June 3, 2021 5:11PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@DelawareDoons said:

@airplanenut said:
Out of curiosity, did that person bid on the item? Any chance they either saw it close above their bid while thinking they won (and thus they made a mistake) or they mixed up this with another item? That buyer has a fair amount of feedback, which means it seems like an established account, and usually I'd expect this kind of activity from a new burner account. For what it's worth, I had a buyer a week or two ago who held off paying until he got the invoice for the two coins he won... until I had to point out to him that he only won one of them. He promptly paid and apologized for the mix-up.

This was a buy-it-now listing that sold about 20 minutes after I posted it.

I reached out to a seller that cancelled on me last week after I bought their item. I hadn't thought to ask for the username at the time but I did today. Surprise, it was the same user. I did re-buy the item after messaging this seller, but it was still a completely unnecessary pain in the rear and I almost left the seller a negative feedback while I was stewing over the cancellation.

I'm not sure if be surprised. I think you have their motivation right there. They are apparently mad about the other transaction and are just screwing with you.

There was no way he knew I was the buyer of that coin. He's acting independently, I buy a lot on eBay. I've just now coincidentally run into him twice. I'm guessing he's doing this a lot.

jmlanzaf · June 3, 2021 5:14PM

@DelawareDoons said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@DelawareDoons said:

@airplanenut said:
Out of curiosity, did that person bid on the item? Any chance they either saw it close above their bid while thinking they won (and thus they made a mistake) or they mixed up this with another item? That buyer has a fair amount of feedback, which means it seems like an established account, and usually I'd expect this kind of activity from a new burner account. For what it's worth, I had a buyer a week or two ago who held off paying until he got the invoice for the two coins he won... until I had to point out to him that he only won one of them. He promptly paid and apologized for the mix-up.

This was a buy-it-now listing that sold about 20 minutes after I posted it.

I reached out to a seller that cancelled on me last week after I bought their item. I hadn't thought to ask for the username at the time but I did today. Surprise, it was the same user. I did re-buy the item after messaging this seller, but it was still a completely unnecessary pain in the rear and I almost left the seller a negative feedback while I was stewing over the cancellation.

I'm not sure if be surprised. I think you have their motivation right there. They are apparently mad about the other transaction and are just screwing with you.

There was no way he knew I was the buyer of that coin. He's acting independently, I buy a lot on eBay. I've just now coincidentally run into him twice. I'm guessing he's doing this a lot.

Maybe. Although if the seller shared his ID with you, he could have shared yours with him.

Was it the same kind of item?

lkenefic · June 3, 2021 5:48PM

I've recently started buying more on ebay. I've sold some in the past but it seems like selling, especially for a "sometimes seller" like me, is getting to be more of a headache than it's worth. Too bad, I was considering selling some antiques...

DelawareDoons · June 3, 2021 5:50PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@DelawareDoons said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@DelawareDoons said:

@airplanenut said:
Out of curiosity, did that person bid on the item? Any chance they either saw it close above their bid while thinking they won (and thus they made a mistake) or they mixed up this with another item? That buyer has a fair amount of feedback, which means it seems like an established account, and usually I'd expect this kind of activity from a new burner account. For what it's worth, I had a buyer a week or two ago who held off paying until he got the invoice for the two coins he won... until I had to point out to him that he only won one of them. He promptly paid and apologized for the mix-up.

This was a buy-it-now listing that sold about 20 minutes after I posted it.

I reached out to a seller that cancelled on me last week after I bought their item. I hadn't thought to ask for the username at the time but I did today. Surprise, it was the same user. I did re-buy the item after messaging this seller, but it was still a completely unnecessary pain in the rear and I almost left the seller a negative feedback while I was stewing over the cancellation.

I'm not sure if be surprised. I think you have their motivation right there. They are apparently mad about the other transaction and are just screwing with you.

There was no way he knew I was the buyer of that coin. He's acting independently, I buy a lot on eBay. I've just now coincidentally run into him twice. I'm guessing he's doing this a lot.

Maybe. Although if the seller shared his ID with you, he could have shared yours with him.

Was it the same kind of item?

I asked the seller, he ceased all communication with the guy as soon as he realized, and didn't tell him my username.

They were both coins. Different types. Similar price range ($150).

I have not left feedback yet.

jmlanzaf · June 3, 2021 6:23PM

@DelawareDoons said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@DelawareDoons said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@DelawareDoons said:

@airplanenut said:
Out of curiosity, did that person bid on the item? Any chance they either saw it close above their bid while thinking they won (and thus they made a mistake) or they mixed up this with another item? That buyer has a fair amount of feedback, which means it seems like an established account, and usually I'd expect this kind of activity from a new burner account. For what it's worth, I had a buyer a week or two ago who held off paying until he got the invoice for the two coins he won... until I had to point out to him that he only won one of them. He promptly paid and apologized for the mix-up.

This was a buy-it-now listing that sold about 20 minutes after I posted it.

I reached out to a seller that cancelled on me last week after I bought their item. I hadn't thought to ask for the username at the time but I did today. Surprise, it was the same user. I did re-buy the item after messaging this seller, but it was still a completely unnecessary pain in the rear and I almost left the seller a negative feedback while I was stewing over the cancellation.

I'm not sure if be surprised. I think you have their motivation right there. They are apparently mad about the other transaction and are just screwing with you.

There was no way he knew I was the buyer of that coin. He's acting independently, I buy a lot on eBay. I've just now coincidentally run into him twice. I'm guessing he's doing this a lot.

Maybe. Although if the seller shared his ID with you, he could have shared yours with him.

Was it the same kind of item?

I asked the seller, he ceased all communication with the guy as soon as he realized, and didn't tell him my username.

They were both coins. Different types. Similar price range ($150).

I have not left feedback yet.

Bit of a statistical oddity... running into the same person twice like that.

jessewvu · June 3, 2021 6:59PM

I recently had a buyer with 1 feedback buy a coin. Wanted to return the $300 item and shipped back to my PO Box. It was marked as delivered but never made it to my PO Box and was delivered to a street address down the road as they have gps tracking at delivery with their scanner. Makes me think he put an address over the label.

I told him I’d go into the post office today to check and he immediately filed a claim with eBay and since it was marked delivered, they sided with him and refunded him the money.

jmlanzaf · June 3, 2021 7:00PM

@jessewvu said:
I recently had a buyer with 1 feedback but a coin. Wanted to return the $300 item ans shipped pack to my PO Box. Marked as delivered but never made it to my PO Box and was delivered to a street address down the road. Makes me think he put an address over the label.

I told him I’d go into the post office today to check and he immediately filed a claim with eBay and since it was marked delivered, they sided with him and refunded him the money.

Could also be the post office. They are still struggling.

jessewvu · June 3, 2021 7:01PM

Maybe but I know everyone in the post office and they know me. They said it shouldn’t have left the post office once inside 🤷‍♂️

jmlanzaf · June 3, 2021 7:03PM

@jessewvu said:
Maybe but I know everyone in the post office and they know me. They said it shouldn’t have left the post office once inside 🤷‍♂️

It's easy to prove. Have them pull the photo of the package.

MasonG · June 3, 2021 7:41PM

@jmlanzaf said:
Could also be the post office. They are still struggling.

Not if you believe their tv ads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV-Trme3kpA

jmlanzaf · June 3, 2021 7:42PM

@MasonG said:

@jmlanzaf said:
Could also be the post office. They are still struggling.

Not if you believe their tv ads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV-Trme3kpA

Lol. Ask me about my recent experiences.

MasonG · June 3, 2021 7:47PM

@jmlanzaf said:
Lol. Ask me about my recent experiences.

No need, I have my own. I had to laugh when I saw the ad on tv, though- maybe they should try to deal with the business they have already accepted payment to provide before trying to attract more.

jessewvu · June 4, 2021 4:31AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@jessewvu said:
Maybe but I know everyone in the post office and they know me. They said it shouldn’t have left the post office once inside 🤷‍♂️

It's easy to prove. Have them pull the photo of the package.

Say whaaaaaaat? Who took a picture?

yspsales · June 4, 2021 4:43AM

You can go in the backdoor by looking at sold listing and then via "see original listing" and contact seller.

I would check the coin for an unattributed variety.

Seems like alot of interest for this type of underhanded dealing.

jmlanzaf · June 4, 2021 5:09AM

@jessewvu said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@jessewvu said:
Maybe but I know everyone in the post office and they know me. They said it shouldn’t have left the post office once inside 🤷‍♂️

It's easy to prove. Have them pull the photo of the package.

Say whaaaaaaat? Who took a picture?

Post office photographs package when they scan them at the sort facility. You can see the label.

DelawareDoons · January 3, 2022 12:46PM

This guy is still doing this for what it's worth. I'd suggest blocking his new eBay account, "terrag_79". He now sends the message from a new throwaway account then buys it on the aforementioned account.

Throwaway accounts he's used are as follows;
hecar577680
mawa6964
prconn6502

The address traces back to a bankruptcy law firm in Vista, CA, outside of San Diego.

DelawareDoons · January 4, 2022 7:33AM

The law firm is a virtual address. I have his actual name and address now.

burfle23 · January 4, 2022 7:53AM

DelawareDoons · January 4, 2022 8:37AM

@burfle23 said:

Yes, they NARU'ed his original account. See my recent posts for updated information on this individual.

BuffaloIronTail · January 4, 2022 9:07AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@jessewvu said:
I recently had a buyer with 1 feedback but a coin. Wanted to return the $300 item ans shipped pack to my PO Box. Marked as delivered but never made it to my PO Box and was delivered to a street address down the road. Makes me think he put an address over the label.

I told him I’d go into the post office today to check and he immediately filed a claim with eBay and since it was marked delivered, they sided with him and refunded him the money.

Could also be the post office. They are still struggling.

That's putting it mildly.

Pete

morganFLcollector · February 6, 2022 8:05PM

Just FYI, mawa has another new name on ebay, mawa6962 , same strategy though, try to get a seller to cancel an order with the hopes of swooping in an buying it once it gets relisted. I was the buyer tonight, luckily seller reached out before cancelling. This has happened to me as a buyer MULTIPLE times before. I called eBay, agent agreed mawa6962's account looks suspicious (opened in Oct. 21, only bought 1 item) and could see the messages he sent to the seller. Just a warning to all buyers & sellers to keep watching out!

morganFLcollector · February 7, 2022 4:07PM

If you're shopping for coins on eBay you may have also come across user 'drkitt###'. I myself purchased a coin from 'drkitt12', I sent multiple messages to the seller.. never heard a thing. The coin did ship, but being it was only about $50 and he had a dozen much more expensive coin listings going I'm not sure those folks received their coins. Now what is suspicious is that a new account 'drkitt_37' has popped up today. This guy's listings always have the coin in the slab rotated 90 degrees, and this new seller has listed a coin with the same format. Just be alert.. this guy is likely some kind of scammer.

knovak1976 · February 7, 2022 4:56PM

Another recent scam/hack happened to a friend of mine. He sold a PCGS V-75 Gold coin on eBay. Buyer paid for it and sent his address..........which happened to be to someone else's address that had hacked into the buyers address profile. Luckily eBay paid for the lost transaction and had an address to track the thief down. Not sure if they hunted them down or not but the transaction was over $3,000. Really sad that we can't do much anywhere anymore without worrying about scammers being on the take.

Cougar1978 · February 7, 2022 7:14PM

When it’s some screwball request be careful.

Jzyskowski1 · February 7, 2022 7:38PM

Knovak. So true and so sad but these kind of things have been going on as long as there have been people participating in commerce

Weird eBay "scam" going around, sellers beware.

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