1880s toned Morgan’s artificial?, rank?

Ppp

Hello,

I picked up a several toned Morgan dollars and I am trying to determine if they are natural.
I seen and heard how toned coins do carry a premium for a select group of collectors. If these are natural would they carry a premium?
How would you rank them in terms of appeal?

ricko

You are correct.... Some collectors prize colorful tarnish and do pay premiums. Others, such as myself (we are few evidently) neither like it, nor collect it. As far as your coins and their appeal, I will leave that opinion to others. Good luck, Cheers, RickO

TurtleCat

I would rank them in the order you listed: ABC. The first is a neutral to slightly positive look to me. The rest are neutral to a bit negative for my taste. At least judging by the pics.

Of the three, C looks the most suspicious but I’d say - judging from pics - that A and B are likely market acceptable. Still it wouldn’t surprise me if these all had some help.

There are premiums for nice toning. The value differential will fluctuate a great deal, though, depending upon the look and luster. It’s hard to gauge the luster with these.

MFeld

They all look natural to me and in terms of appeal, I like A the best.

I prefer the obverse of B somewhat over that of C, but the reverse of C easily trumps B's. So I think I'd take C over B.

291fifth

They look natural to me but none of them have much eye-appeal.

bsshog40

I like them. I also think that inhand the colors probably pop a little better. All look NT to me.

Jimnight

All look like natural toning. I personally don't care for them.

JJM

i think the toning is natural on them as well

DelawareDoons

They're natural, I'm also on the ABC camp.

U1chicago

All appear to look natural. I’d be pretty certain they would auction at a premium to untoned pieces. Better photos could make a difference, but some like to gamble on bad photos.

My rank is A, C, then B.

Ppp

Thank you for your comments.

I just posted three 1887 toned morgans.

vplite99

NT but not for me.

gradeacoinsebay

All natural. Would give a rough estimate that in terms of premium over what they would normally bring at their grade (can't guess grades from photos).. A would be 3x, B would be 2x, and C 2.5x.

Hopefully that's of some help. Great coins!

cheezhed

NT and I like them all - ACB

blitzdude

If they were in my house all 3 would get a bath. In their present state? Hard to tell with the environmental damage.

C appears to be the better coin. Congrats!

SeattleSlammer

👍🏻

relicsncoins

Looks like typical bag toning. The pull away for the date stars and lettering is difficult to reproduce artificially.

ColonelJessup

@MFeld said:
They all look natural to me and in terms of appeal, I like A the best.

I prefer the obverse of B somewhat over that of C, but the reverse of C easily trumps B's. So I think I'd take C over B.

I'm not seeing much reflectivity and I'm guessing (hoping?) it's the lighting that's flat. 1880-S comes with great lustre that could back-light the toning to produce intense colors.

Even if not so, I'm mentioning this as a way of giving the numismatic finger (and a neurological health warning) to any Philistines deluded from huffing Jewel-Luster.

blu62vette

I like them and like the way you have them ranked. If I saw those somewhere raw, I would buy them.

Ppp

Comment about flat lighting and luster made me think the original pictures could be improved.

When I rotate the coin the colors look beautiful to me. I took two pictures of only A obverse from different angles to see if they show any better (hopefully not too much glare) when compared to the original picture (which I included here for comparisons).

fathom

They are nice and they will straight grade.

The coins that are obviously accelerated toned will not straight grade.....sometimes.