Storing Bank Wrapped Rolls

CoinHoarder

I store my bank wrapped dimes in plastic nickel tubes. How do you store your coin rolls?

Jimsokay

One roll that I put in a similar plastic tube decades again would not release them. Not much fun getting them out. The BU’s rolls that were left in paper rolls are still like I left them in the seventies.

Mr_Spud

I have some in mason jars with desiccant in there too to lower the probability that the paper wrapper will cause environmental damage.

rec78

I don't store bank wrapped rolls. I open them.

BuffaloIronTail

@Mr_Spud said:
I have some in mason jars with desiccant in there too to lower the probability that the paper wrapper will cause environmental damage.

The paper wrapper............that's the key! How it reacts to the coins it holds can be bust or boon.

Pete

jessewvu

I store my OBW silver dimes in cent tubes, quarters in half tubes, and half dollars in dollar tubes. At least that’s where I think they are. Haven’t seen them in a long time.

joeykoins

jmlanzaf

If the paper rolls are low quality paper, the WORST thing you can do is put them in plastic tube.

Walkerguy21D

@jmlanzaf said:
If the paper rolls are low quality paper, the WORST thing you can do is put them in plastic tube.

Why is that? It looked like a good idea.....is there moisture trapped that can react with the paper?

MasonG

@Walkerguy21D said:
Why is that?

WAG- whatever crap is in the paper ends up trapped in the tube with the coins, not dispersed into the atmosphere.

Walkerguy21D

But, wouldn’t most rolls be stored in a box, safe, or SDB? So the dispersion of contaminants would still be limited....I think most of us keep our rolls in something, with the exception of joeykoins, who keeps his on the kitchen table 😏

MasonG

@Walkerguy21D said:
But, wouldn’t most rolls be stored in a box, safe, or SDB? So the dispersion of contaminants would still be limited....

True enough, but tubes are even more limiting.

edited to add... I've taken all the original rolls I have, discarded the paper and put them into plastic tubes so I don't know for sure what would happen if they were left in the paper rolls.

Coinscratch

@rec78 said:
I don't store bank wrapped rolls. I open them.

Took the words right out of my mouth. The paper comes off immediately, the good ones shipped for grading and then the left overs go into the tube naked.

I'll store some for you @CoinHoarder

Kliao

@rec78 said:
I don't store bank wrapped rolls. I open them.

A few years ago when I started collecting, When ever I got rolls of coins from the bank, sometimes I couldn't wait to open them and started searching them in the car on the way home.

ricko

I have a few wrapped rolls .... I keep them that way, in my safe. Safe has desiccants, no degradation. Cheers, RickO

jmlanzaf

@MasonG said:

@Walkerguy21D said:
Why is that?

WAG- whatever crap is in the paper ends up trapped in the tube with the coins, not dispersed into the atmosphere.

This.

CoinHoarder

I do it this way too. I know, this is terrible!

joeykoins

@CoinHoarder said:
I do it this way too. I know, this is terrible!

Lol. Just as long you don't mistake those for your daily meds.

CoinHoarder

I’m getting better though. When I was a kid, I used to store some of my coins in tin foil.

jmlanzaf

@CoinHoarder said:
I do it this way too. I know, this is terrible!

Is that archival plastic?

Mr_Spud

@CoinHoarder You probably at least should leave out the bubble wrap. Bubble wrap causes corrosion because it usually contains PVC or PVDC (liquid Saran) which most coin collectors already know should be avoided. Read the last paragraph below. I copied the whole thing from https://theassayoffice.com/tarnish_labexpert

After extensive research, paper and cardboard materials used for packaging have now been identified as one of the factors that can accelerate tarnishing. High sulphur and other tarnish-causing compounds released from paper, cardboard, certain cloths, foams and adhesives are a common problem. Most types of paperboard in contact with silver, copper and certain copper-zinc based low carat gold alloys cause localised tarnish stains on the metal surface.

The tarnishing agent is most likely to be free sulphur or a volatile sulphur-liberating compound, which can still cause problems even if not in direct contact with the product. The blackening of silverware wrapped in tissue paper and packed in paperboard boxes is not due to the direct effect of any corrosive substances in the tissue but to the vapourphase action of sulphur compounds from the boxes, which penetrate through the paper to the metal surface.

Moisture may also be a vital ingredient. Paper/paperboard containing 0.5 or 2.5 per cent sodium sulphide tarnishes silver only in the presence of moisture. Similarly, various types of paper containing sulphur compounds which, on alkaline extraction and acidification, liberate hydrogen sulphide do not blacken silver unless they are moist. On the other hand, filter papers impregnated to contain 0.006 per cent of free sulphur can cause tarnish stains, even when the papers are completely dry. The tarnishing of silver, copper and certain copperzinc alloys can be avoided with certainty only if a free sulphur content of less than 0.0008 per cent can be assured in the paper or paperboard with which the metal articles are in contact.

Recycled paper and cardboard may be helpful as they have lower sulphur content than virgin paper, as well as lower levels of other harmful tarnish-causing constituents. As far as paper/cardboard packaging material is concerned, it is not only sulphur that is involved. All wood products have some level of formaldehyde present, which converts to formic acid over time and thereby increases the acidity of the paper product. Unless manufacturers employ rigorous quality control practices to their input stock paper and board, large variations in the tarnish-causing constituent can occur.

If the pH of paper is low, for example 4.0 to 4.5 (cold extraction), as little as 0.0002 per cent of reducible sulphur may cause tarnishing, whereas if the pH is higher, even a much higher quantity of sulphur may not cause tarnishing.

So-called ‘acid free’ paper has been found to contain high concentrations of sulphur and other contaminants. ‘Acid free’ and ‘acid neutral’ have very different meanings: ‘acid free’ is a process to remove the acids from the board and often relies on non-wood components (rag is typical). ‘Acid neutral’ is simply a pH buffering material (which leaches out over time, leaving behind an acidic board or paper) added to the paper or board to bring the pH of the system to neutral. ‘Acid free’ paper/cardboard is therefore preferable.

In the UK, the average level of atmospheric sulphur is only a few parts per billion – not sufficient itself to cause rapid tarnishing. However, when an item is packaged in a small, sealed environment with sulphur-releasing agents such as sulphurous adhesives etc, the levels of sulphur can become concentrated, especially in warm, humid conditions. Experimental evidence shows that even one small adhesive label can have dramatic effects.

Some synthetic foam, besides sulphur, contains high levels of chlorides and fluorides – both of which will cause tarnishing of silver and other metals. Some plastic bubble wraps in direct contact with silver objects can also encourage tarnishing. Two kinds of tarnish have been noted; firstly an even clouding with a mild orange colour where the smooth side of the bubble wrap made contact with the silver, and secondly a heavier layer of tarnish with clean voids where the bubble surfaces had pressed against the silver. The bubble wrap is made from polyethylene coated with ‘liquid saran’ to keep the air from escaping from the bubbles. The saran is deduced to be the culprit causing tarnishing.