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1944 d wheat penny

The 1st “4” in 1944 is a closed top “4” over an open top “4.”




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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD - see the hits on the other digits,
    and the rim in the date area.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD ;)

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 4, 2021 1:14PM

    @UrbanDecay04
    "Okay... I have a question... How can you tell that it's PMD vs. a die chip? To me, it looks like a die chip and not PMD over the 4... What am I missing?"

    This should have been your first comment rather than......

    "I respectfully disagree... The 4 has raised areas that the other digits don't... Based on the pictures (until we get better ones) I'd say, Die Chip... I could be wrong but it doesn't look like PMD to me."

    First thing you might want to do is read your sig line then read Fred's sig line. ;)
    .

    The photos are not the best so it is easy to understand why there might be some confusion.

    In an attempt to help you & the OP understand I will tell you what I see, and maybe that is what Fred was seeing also.
    Keep in mind Fred doesn't have time to go into detail on many posts unless asked for specific details.

    The area in red appears in the photo to be depressed or a divot.
    The blue line makes it appear that both contact marks may line up and may have happened at the same time.
    The yellow appears to be push up or raised. This would be where the metal in the divot was pushed to.
    The other thing you need to factor in is that there may be wear on the coin after the PMD that has changed the look.
    This is just my observation and I could be wrong. Better photos would help.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can ask for better photos to settle an argument, but the original question was answered.

    It’s just damaged. I’m liking the gouge description.

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    AllentramAllentram Posts: 92 ✭✭✭

    Perhaps this was an attempt to create a fake 1914-D from a 1944-D.

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Allentram said:
    Perhaps this was an attempt to create a fake 1914-D from a 1944-D.

    If that was the case, they should have used the vertical bar on the right side of the 4 to create the 1. this can be seen in the large space in between the 9 and 1.

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 4, 2021 2:08PM

    @UrbanDecay04 said:

    @FredWeinberg said:
    PMD - see the hits on the other digits,
    and the rim in the date area.

    I respectfully disagree... The 4 has raised areas that the other digits don't... Based on the pictures (until we get better ones) I'd say, Die Chip... I could be wrong but it doesn't look like PMD to me

    Fred knows. You want a job as a grader at PCGS? Listen and Learn from the Fred's of the world............then maybe.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD.... several indications, however @ifthevamzarockin gave an excellent description/diagram. Cheers, RickO

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