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1965 PCGS MS66+ Should be full steps!! Any thoughts?

I am attaching a picture of my 66+ graded by PCGS, and the steps from the # 1 registry set which is 1 of 2 designated. The only difference is the registry set one has damage on the leftmost side of his steps. Can anyone help, or give there thoughts on my steps? There are practically identical except mine are a little cleaner. Thanks


  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not my series at all, but I would be concerned with the convergence of step 3 (from the top) to step 4 toward the left, about 1/4 of the way down the length of the staircase, and 3 to 4 on the far right of the staircase.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both coins in the op have blends in the steps and neither should be considered as true FS examples. The fact that one is, well that is the grading game.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 31,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    tread lightly

    people get bammed for jumping up and down on pcgs.

    I'm in the neither qualify camp. ignoring the hits, both have blended steps.

    advice: don't make an offer on the first one.

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 5th step is totally missing.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 22,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:
    The 5th step is totally missing.

    So are the sixth and seventh and eight.


  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    not even close

  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭✭

    Neither coin looks full steps to me. And they aren't very close to it.

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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's what a FS example should look like.


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  • Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope - close but no cigar. You can't have a break of any sort along the entire length and that includes nicks, not just poor strikes.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have to agree with no.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2021 3:14AM

    @jjohnson3582506.... Welcome aboard....Another vote for neither coin has full steps....Very clear as stated in several posts above. Cheers, RickO

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2021 3:38AM

    If you have to use 26x mag to prove a point, one should consider the point being made isn’t what you think it is.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My opinion: Neither one has full steps.

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  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2021 6:34AM

    As Simon Cowell would say, "it's a no from me" on both nickels in the OP.

    Leo's 1965 nickel looks to be quite a bit better, but it needs a more detailed close up pic. Plus Leo has one struck well on both sides. FS does nothing for me if Jefferson or Monticello looks like a smear.

  • scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure if you have seen this before, but this is a great video that goes into strike and full steps.


    Judging from the video I would have to say neither should be considered FS.

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it seems that folks are being overly picky, I can only say this: For the kind of money that these coins bring, you have to be very, VERY picky.

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,418 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The FS grade on the registry coin was a gift. It will probably not get full-FS $$ when it is auctioned some day.

  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Many collectors are confused as to what qualifies a coin to be a SMS or a business strike. Must we distinguish a well detailed strike from a weaker details strike? How lustrous or proof-like it is that tells us its a SMS or how weak and dullish for a business strike? Perhaps wired rims make this distinction which is an indicator greater coining pressure, how it was used to stamp the coin blank for SMS nickels. And, does the width of the rim tell us how worn or spread out the face of the dies have become from multiple strikes.
    But there must be a window, a period of time between both type of coins if we are to make that distinction. They wouldn't have done anything with those coins, like recycle them and make more coin blanks only to stamp them again?
    So it's up to the collector to take that gap into consideration and settle on how much a SMS can get or how much a business strike can be. For 1965 to 1970-S JN, there is a segment of production that is really not collectible unless, of course, a new category is created for them, ike......"the nomad nickels"!
    The same holds true with the date run 2005 to date, is it a specially made mint set coin or a coin made for circulation? It's in the hair bangs with those, melded verses detailed.

    Leo ;)

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