1903 Indian Head with multiple errors

Peace1

1903 IHP that I think has a partial clip? Not sure what the webbing look is between the lower feathers, possible RPD and has extreme Longacre doubling on the reverse. Clashing on both obverse and reverse. Input welcomed

MWallace

That is a very small rim clip above the "S" of STATES.

Peace1

@MWallace said:
That is a very small rim clip above the "S" of STATES.

There was a speculation during bidding that it was PMD ...I leaned more towards a small clip in the pictures I was given...I came in the mail today and doesn’t look like PMD but thought I would throw it out here for other inputs

MWallace

@Peace1 said:

@MWallace said:
That is a very small rim clip above the "S" of STATES.

There was a speculation during bidding that it was PMD ...I leaned more towards a small clip in the pictures I was given...I came in the mail today and does look like PMD but thought I would throw it out here for other inputs

I still think it is a small clip. Maybe @seanq will chime in. He's the resident clip expert.

LanceNewmanOCC

legit clip like MWallace stated.

the coin like a lot of IHC has obv/rev clashing which explains the "webbing" you see from the reverse wreath.

sometimes die polishing can cause that "webbing" look as well.

i dont' know if that is an RPD but you provide sufficient images for someone that has the info/knowledge.

gratz on knowing "longacre doubling" - also nice images and presentation.

the coin is questionable color meaning it has been dipped and does not have natural surfaces from those image. imo

Peace1

@LanceNewmanOCC said:
legit clip like MWallace stated.

the coin like a lot of IHC has obv/rev clashing which explains the "webbing" you see from the reverse wreath.

sometimes die polishing can cause that "webbing" look as well.

i dont' know if that is an RPD but you provide sufficient images for someone that has the info/knowledge.

gratz on knowing "longacre doubling" - also nice images and presentation.

the coin is questionable color meaning it has been dipped and does not have natural surfaces from those image. imo

Appreciate the input!

seanq

@MWallace said:

@Peace1 said:

@MWallace said:
That is a very small rim clip above the "S" of STATES.

There was a speculation during bidding that it was PMD ...I leaned more towards a small clip in the pictures I was given...I came in the mail today and does look like PMD but thought I would throw it out here for other inputs

I still think it is a small clip. Maybe @seanq will chime in. He's the resident clip expert.

Definitely a legit rim clip above STATES. I also see slight repunching on the date, on the bottom left side of the 9 and 0. I don't have my books handy but it is similar to (but not the same as) RPD_020 as pictured here:

Indian Cent Varieties

Sean Reynolds

MWallace

@seanq said:

@MWallace said:

@Peace1 said:

@MWallace said:
That is a very small rim clip above the "S" of STATES.

There was a speculation during bidding that it was PMD ...I leaned more towards a small clip in the pictures I was given...I came in the mail today and does look like PMD but thought I would throw it out here for other inputs

I still think it is a small clip. Maybe @seanq will chime in. He's the resident clip expert.

Definitely a legit rim clip above STATES. I also see slight repunching on the date, on the bottom left side of the 9 and 0. I don't have my books handy but it is similar to (but not the same as) RPD_020 as pictured here:

Indian Cent Varieties

Sean Reynolds

Thank you for your opinion on the clip and Right On about the RPD.

291fifth

A minor clip on a cleaned coin.

Peace1

@seanq said:

@MWallace said:

@Peace1 said:

@MWallace said:
That is a very small rim clip above the "S" of STATES.

There was a speculation during bidding that it was PMD ...I leaned more towards a small clip in the pictures I was given...I came in the mail today and does look like PMD but thought I would throw it out here for other inputs

I still think it is a small clip. Maybe @seanq will chime in. He's the resident clip expert.

Definitely a legit rim clip above STATES. I also see slight repunching on the date, on the bottom left side of the 9 and 0. I don't have my books handy but it is similar to (but not the same as) RPD_020 as pictured here:

Indian Cent Varieties

Sean Reynolds

Agreed on the RPD...does not match 020 so sent images to Indianvarieties.com for input

ricko

Interesting IHC.... and you have confirmation of your observations.... Nice find. Cheers, RickO

thefinn

I only see one error - the clip in the planchet.

Peace1

Received my 1903 IHP back from Rick Snow!! It’s now a new variety!!

Peace1

LanceNewmanOCC

congratulations!!!

don't really see these posted here.

AND you took it all the way with anacs. i love sending them discovery coins and seeing it on the label. i've done many with them.

appreciate you sharing it here as well.

rick has seemed like someone that would be fun to do something like this with and i'm glad he's still doing it.

@Peace1

is that the same coin from the OP? if so, why such different looks? it doesn't even appear to be the same coin.

Steven59

Nice clip on an Indian cent. Wasn't Longacre doubling actually a way to tell die wear as it was actually carved into the new dies? There have been many theories!

ChrisH821

Cool!

Peace1

@LanceNewmanOCC said:
congratulations!!!

don't really see these posted here.

AND you took it all the way with anacs. i love sending them discovery coins and seeing it on the label. i've done many with them.

appreciate you sharing it here as well.

rick has seemed like someone that would be fun to do something like this with and i'm glad he's still doing it.

@Peace1

is that the same coin from the OP? if so, why such different looks? it doesn't even appear to be the same coin.

@LanceNewmanOCC
Yes this is the same coin. I took pictures in a light box with cool light

MsMorrisine

Nice