US Mint 2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set: Composition?
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Certainly US Mint 2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set will contain the two quarters and the half, but:
1) might the mint include two ASEs (Type 1 rev and Type 2 rev)?
2) is there a remote chance that the mint might sub in proofs of the 2021 Morgan and 2021 Peace dollars?
My take is that they should do #1, and that #2 would not happen (although that would be a bigger seller, IMO).
Steve Palladino
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Neither 1 nor 2 will happen...
I suspect there’s a chance for #1 but I would actually expect them to just do the new reverse. So fewer coins but same price (given 2 quarters this year) as last year as they did everything else.
I would like to see either #1 or #2 but I don’t expect it at all.
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definitely not 2
Two quarters, one half, one dime, one type-2 ASE. That's all folks. (That's just my guess, don't shoot the messenger or the piano player!)
you'll get what you get from the mint and you won't pitch a fit
Mystery S&W description still not accounted for. My guess 1 type2 W and 1type 2 S ase
🤓. Both products made this year
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What I was wondering, could this be the final year for this set?
I doubt it. It makes money and it’s easy to produce. And this year, more than likely, an even bigger profit margin if they keep the same price but reduce the number of coins.
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Having not read my own post in four months, I would now reply to my April self:
1) don't hold your breath
2) not even a snowball's chance in hell
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Hey howdy anyone who cares to comment about the S&W situation ?
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Hmmmm.....all coins in all prior Limited Edition Silver Proof Sets were from a single mint - San Francisco.
The 2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set does list both S & W ....hmmm.
Possibilities:
1) dime through half from S, and ASE proof from W
2) dime through ASE proof from S, and ASE proof from W
Dime through half from W is not likely at all. Of note, not likely to be a Morgan proof, but a W minted Morgan proof??? ...nahh.
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It’s not a Morgan 😁. I know you ment ase. But thanks and how about that. I appreciate your laying out possibilities I didn’t consider the dang dime/quarters/half 🤓
Now watch those miracle workers at the mint come up a fabulous new way to “enhance my experience “
Re-read got ya “Morgan proof”😂
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No real mystery here. Same as the 2016 set S mint minor coins W mint ASE. Imho type 2 in keeping with the item number having the 'N'.
The dang mint website sure thinks it’s a mystery. I like your idea thanks 🤓
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The 2016 had the W mint ASE for the anniversary with edge lettering.
The type 2W had an odd mintage 320,000 something. The S type 2 even mintage. I don’t know but the mint does!
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I don't understand why the USM doesn't keep the site more up to date at least with images and composition. These decisions were made months ago. Of course they have problems even keeping mintage limits correct (AGE 1/10 oz) so no real shock.
They waited until a couple days before putting up ase’s S proof stats 😈
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I think the T2 is currently at about 385,523 just under 300,000 of the single coin and 2,142 of the bulk 40 coin. There haven't been clear numbers posted yet on the USM site for the S mint but likely something well north of 200,000 with bulk sales. And whichever ends up in this set adds to that.
The smaller coins will be S and the one ASE will be W.
My money is on a T1 + T2 in this set.
It does say S &W which would be what
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Well here’s this one again. Still not answered S&W what?
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Could be S proof coins and a W ASE. Most likely that I would think.
That was mentioned as the2013 set so there’s some president 🤓
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you may want to know sooner Re: total mintages
the Mint has its own timeline and I doubt anyone here has an inside line on the mint's offerings.
way impatient
Absolutely correct. Just thought what the heck these guys will argue about anything and maybe needing some pleasant conversation I don’t know what possessed me. Honestly 🤓
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Well howdy 🤠
Hey what do you think? Limited edition set now listed as available October 1st ? Why do I smell backorder! I just can’t believe it
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...and still no details on S vs W composition of the set. I would figure that if a date is set, that the composition would be revealed at the same time.
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product limit decision for the silver proof set may be awaiting final count on ASE sales to date in order not to exceed published mintage limit with what gets included in the silver proof set.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Could just be a single W ASE with the remaining coins being an S. Or could include both a W and S ASE.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Agreed and why they have to be so dang double knot spy about it. Been discussion at length about the pictures are renderings why. Great just noticed that with this release that places a screw job on the pension $. So much allowance per month. 1st of ,release date , requires previous months planning. Lovely just lovely 🤠
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Update from double knot spy center ! The mint posted renderings of the uncirculated set so limited edition is next. What is the big deal with “”no soup for you “attitude from the mint. I know dang well they are aware of the situation with W&S mm and are toying with us! They really exhaust me 🤠
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Don't know if this was mentioned earlier, but there were only two quarters issued by the mint in 2021 instead of the five in earlier years. Seems they will needs to fatten up this set with additional ASEs. More than two ASE proofs? How about a W T1 & T2 and an S T2. Or maybe include the S & W reverse proofs?
Bottom line is with three less quarters in 2021 they will need to get creative.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
I kinda wish they would do a silver version of the cent and nickel for the sets. That would be very cool and worthy of a limited set. Would make competition fierce for the first issue, too.
Or, at the least, include the cent and nickel like they do with the regular set. Not like it costs them much more to do.
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ASE sales to date have no impact. There are no published mintage limits for either of the proof ASE, only product limits, which refer to the limit for the coin in that packaging, not a mintage limit. The USM could include either or both of the T2 or the T1 with no consideration of prior sales. I believe it will be a single T2 (item number has 'N' as other products having the new reverse) W mint with S mint minor coins as that meets the details at this point and is what was in the 2016 set with the same S and W description.
Just had a conversation with the mint. I post their comments not mine Please don’t shoot the messenger
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Wow!
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If the Live Chat are the same as the 1-800-# people, then they have no clue. there is nothing special they have access to with respect to mint offerings or the schedule.
I called them up, they said the limited edition silver proof set will contain a Cent, a Nickel, a Native American, and two Innovation Dollars!!! I said there isn't any silver in them thar coins and they said it's been a tough year and silver is limited.
Limited Edition 2021 Silver Proof Set - American Eagle Collection
https://catalog.usmint.gov/limited-edition-2021-silver-proof-set-american-eagle-collection-21RCN.html
MULTI (S)(W)
$235.00
This product will be available for sale on October 1, 2021, at 12 noon (ET).
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This is the only year this set boasts two American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coins! All six coins in the set contain 99.9% fine silver:
American Eagle Silver Proof Coin – New Design (San Francisco)
American Eagle Silver Proof Coin – Classic Design (West Point)
Tuskegee Airmen National Historic Site quarter (last in the America the Beautiful Quarters® Program!)
George Washington Crossing the Delaware quarter
Kennedy half dollar
Roosevelt dime
The coins in the set contain a total of 2.876 troy ounces of silver.
A unique, standout set for your own collection or exquisite, one-of-a-kind gift to mark special achievements and milestones!
Item Number: 21RCN
Mintage Limit: None
Product Limit: 50,000
Household Order Limit: 1
Why the dang W type 1. These people absolutely gag me.
Well kids have at it. 2.876 oz. of silver $89.156 per oz. I was wondering if there was any way the Mint could mess this up more than release on October 1st. I bid you all good luck,sincerely, I won’t be playing but that is one more for you. Good bye thread. 🤓🙀
(Stupid Mint I have enough type 1’s. I’m taking my cat and we’re leaving. Stupid Mint)
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So this is actually the last type 1 product then and has less mintage then the two coin limited edition set…holy cow
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Not entirely unexpected.
Although, had they a) minted the entire set at San Francisco (dime through T2 ASE), and b) included a S-mint proof Morgan as well, and c) auctioned the sets, they would have had a tidy windfall.
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You were correct!! Amazing! From your initial post back in April #1 will be coming true for the first time ever I believe. I take back all my predictions of the usual one ASE.
From the mint:
"This is the only year this set boasts two American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coins! All six coins in the set contain 99.9% fine silver:
American Eagle Silver Proof Coin – New Design (San Francisco)
American Eagle Silver Proof Coin – Classic Design (West Point)
Tuskegee Airmen National Historic Site quarter (last in the America the Beautiful Quarters® Program!)
George Washington Crossing the Delaware quarter
Kennedy half dollar
Roosevelt dime
The coins in the set contain a total of 2.876 troy ounces of silver."
No new coins that were not already issued earlier in the year, so thankfully I have no interest in this one.
However, It looks like a nice set of coins and I expect a lot will be after it.
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I am looking forward to the set!
I think it's 81.27 per oz, but what makes me mad is I purchased these items separately and they cost me 87.27 per oz. ($251 I did get the bonus of the cent and dollar) and this set further increases the number of S mint ASE which I was hoping wouldn't happen.
I get 81.71. 235 divided by 2.876 = 81.71…. Anyway I stand corrected 😉I sure hear you. The type 1ase W ? Killed it for me
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@Jzyskowski1 Right this should put the W around 425,000 mintage, and thats before the end of the year "history of the 2021 ASE" set lol. I'll be glad when the USM is done with 2021 ASE releases.