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Is this a die crack even though on an incuse coin?

Jdcag5775Jdcag5775 Posts: 11 ✭
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It doesn't look PMD. Would it be considered a die crack? Being an incuse coin, I wouldn't think a crack since it is indented into the coin. So, I'm thinking a laminate issue.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die cracks have to be raised.

    I sense a slight ripple to the left of the L. Lamination? Not 100% sure.

  • Jdcag5775Jdcag5775 Posts: 11 ✭

    That's why I was more against a die crack. What would this be considered as, though?

  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does it look like it's peeling up along this area?

  • Jdcag5775Jdcag5775 Posts: 11 ✭

    There seems to be a "lip" to it like peeling.

  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like JBK said, maybe a lamination.

  • Jdcag5775Jdcag5775 Posts: 11 ✭

    Thanks. Just needed more knowledged opinions.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a peeling lamination, nice find! I had one of these once, and PCGS would not holder it for some reason. I think they said they could not guarantee it would survive the holdering process, so they did not holder them. So off to NGC it went.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    Looks like a peeling lamination, nice find! I had one of these once, and PCGS would not holder it for some reason. I think they said they could not guarantee it would survive the holdering process, so they did not holder them. So off to NGC it went.

    .
    a lot of people have posted coins over the years here that didn't grade due to that but plenty of other coins have made it through grading as well. fwiw

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jdcag5775 said:
    There seems to be a "lip" to it like peeling.

    it looks like a double (slightly) profilw on the upper lip?

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @jwitten said:
    Looks like a peeling lamination, nice find! I had one of these once, and PCGS would not holder it for some reason. I think they said they could not guarantee it would survive the holdering process, so they did not holder them. So off to NGC it went.

    .
    a lot of people have posted coins over the years here that didn't grade due to that but plenty of other coins have made it through grading as well. fwiw

    I would have rather it ended up in PCGS plastic, but oh well. They refused, and NGC didn't.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a lamination.

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  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @jwitten said:
    Looks like a peeling lamination, nice find! I had one of these once, and PCGS would not holder it for some reason. I think they said they could not guarantee it would survive the holdering process, so they did not holder them. So off to NGC it went.

    .
    a lot of people have posted coins over the years here that didn't grade due to that but plenty of other coins have made it through grading as well. fwiw

    I would have rather it ended up in PCGS plastic, but oh well. They refused, and NGC didn't.

    Out of the big three, I'm thinking ANACS is the go-to company for errors.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With only the one photo (2 same area) I agree with
    Those who say planchet lamination.

    OP - did you submit the coin under the Mint Error tier?

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice error.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anything going on, on the rev ? Peace Roy

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strange to see on a gold coin....It does appear to be a planchet defect. Other pictures would help. Cheers, RickO

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