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Oh my, another crazy 1921 Peace dollar result!

ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

Maybe someone thinks it's a 65, the other 64's also did well but not this well.

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-Q9AWH/1921-peace-silver-dollar-high-relief-ms-64-pcgs-ogh

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,284 ✭✭✭✭✭

    YUK!!!!!

    GrandAm :)
  • anablepanablep Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terrible colors on that one :s

    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first thought was tape residue!

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't like it.

  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not for me

  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2, 2021 12:05AM

    There is some very strikingly smooth fields beyond the devices. I might even venture to say they are remarkably’ ‘almost’ prooflike in appearance. The dark reverse cameo appearance is unusual and clearly attracted someone’s attention as well.
    Skin Toning is slightly reminiscent of a dermatology disorder known as vitiligo impetigo.
    With no disrespect, perhaps a buyer might be attracted to this feature?
    Maybe a Dermatoligist?
    Or an artist interested in the art and beauty sometimes perceived in this phenomenon?
    Perhaps even an individual personally touched with this pigment disorder?
    I am right there! Having some vitiligo and a peculiar tendency to collect oddball and curious pieces that touch me personally.
    I am not the buyer in this case though. And I do not collect coins which remind me of dermatology cases.

    (I know it’s a stretch and it’s late. I have insomnia and am recovering from a rather unpleasant oral surgery adventure- so one might take my comments with a grain of salt).

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't care for it.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fugly color not for me either

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 8,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ugly, not my taste at all.
    Jim


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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's all about the high relief, I guess. Peace Roy

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  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You're right.... CRAZY.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    almost certainly the color is killed from looks like scanned images. i tried tinkering with the image but only brought a little color to life. the result wasn't worth sharing. i hope to see true images of this one some day.

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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is overall fugly.
    I do like the obverse fields... Looks like tape residue to me also. I bet it gets cracked out and cleaned up.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 22,532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The buyer is probably thinking with the proper curation it could land in an MS65 slab. On a side note: it wasn't too long ago these sold in 64 for about $750. or so, right?

    peacockcoins

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    UUUUUGLY.... However, it does look like residue, and an acetone bath 'should' remove it....The devices look really nice and the fields seem to be clean. Cheers, RickO

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    The buyer is probably thinking with the proper curation it could land in an MS65 slab. On a side note: it wasn't too long ago these sold in 64 for about $750. or so, right?

    Yes they have increased quite a bit this year (coinciding with the 100th anniversary).

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a fan of the toning. It would be hard for me to get past that before I could even consider this coin.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    The buyer is probably thinking with the proper curation it could land in an MS65 slab. On a side note: it wasn't too long ago these sold in 64 for about $750. or so, right?

    But it brought well over 65 money.

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  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As I look at that coin it starts to grow on me ...

    Higashiyama
  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the toning is ugly but overall the coin looks nice

    always hit your enemy where they least expect it

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure about that one...
    I am interested to see what the 64+ brings at GC this weekend. I expect it to be pretty strong.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The toning pattern suggests to me, "thumbed" prior to submission many years ago.

    Some substance, (possiblity but not necessarily finger or nose oil) gently rubbed in certain areas to mask and blend luster breaks.

    Has since toned interestingly, not a fan of the look myself. I'd be careful not to dip this before close inspection, might (probably) worse after.

    Market acceptable now, generally, and obviously gets a strong premium from both toned peace and OGH collectors.

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  • mtnmanmtnman Posts: 563 ✭✭✭

    That is an ugly 64.

  • markelman1125markelman1125 Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All the 1921 peace dollars seam to be selling high. two months ago an Au 58 sold for $420 at Heritage Auctions. Got my 1921 Au 58 for on only $240 last June.

  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh my!! Don't understand that at all.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "All the 1921 peace dollars seam to be selling high."

    Everybody is paying too much? Perhaps a reconsideration of their current value is in order.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Old holder, exceptional strike; probably a prooflike or obverse proof variety. There are collectors for all the HR varieties of these.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,391 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    "All the 1921 peace dollars seam to be selling high."

    Everybody is paying too much? Perhaps a reconsideration of their current value is in order.

    Nah...if I don't like the price, it's because everyone else is crazy. ;)

  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vitiligo impetigo variety still holds. Even after a little sleep and before pain meds ;-)

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 10,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just wow....
    I paid $35 for this one, granted it was a very long time ago, and it’s only AU, but still....

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just an update on the comment I made above about the GC auction. It sold for a little over $1500
    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/966592/1921-Peace-Silver-Dollar-High-Relief-NGC-MS-64
    I actually thought it would go for a good bit more since it is a nice looker and it is an unattributed Vam 1H.

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    Just wow....
    I paid $35 for this one, granted it was a very long time ago, and it’s only AU, but still....

    Let me know if you want to double your money ;)

    Collector, occasional seller

  • bfjohnsonbfjohnson Posts: 521 ✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Just an update on the comment I made above about the GC auction. It sold for a little over $1500
    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/966592/1921-Peace-Silver-Dollar-High-Relief-NGC-MS-64
    I actually thought it would go for a good bit more since it is a nice looker and it is an unattributed Vam 1H.

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    Just wow....
    I paid $35 for this one, granted it was a very long time ago, and it’s only AU, but still....

    Let me know if you want to double your money ;)

    $1701 with buyers fee

  • markelman1125markelman1125 Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2021 9:41AM

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    Just wow....
    I paid $35 for this one, granted it was a very long time ago, and it’s only AU, but still....

    Now a few hundred dollars coin

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 10,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @markelman1125 said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    Just wow....
    I paid $35 for this one, granted it was a very long time ago, and it’s only AU, but still....

    Now a few hundred dollars coin

    This coin aside, with the crazy price paid, Peace dollars in general seem to be doing fairly well.

    I had priced my complete Dansco set, with a number of toners in it (including that 21P) to a forum member a few years ago at a pretty fair price, and he passed, so I decided to just keep it. Last year, a member REALLY wanted my toned 28P, so I sold it to him. In time, three other members bought most of the rest of them, the total well exceeding what I had quoted for the full set, and I still have a few of my faves left that I decided are NFS.

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  • savitalesavitale Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder what it would look like if someone skilled in the art gave it an expert dip. Could it regrade MS66?

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