Are black NGC holders rare?

Mr_Spud

Just wondering, I saw one for sale the other day and I never saw one before.

Batman23

The old original ones yes. The newer retro ones no.

coindeuce

@Mr_Spud said:
Just wondering, I saw one for sale the other day and I never saw one before.

If it was a 1986 holder, very rare. Plain white insert, with no trademark icon or bar code.

TomB

For the original ones, they are thousands of dollars worth of rare.

Mr_Spud

Thanks, It was a newer one with the scale logo and a barcode

DollarAfterDollar

Those were a recent NGC promotion. The old timey ones are never seen in the wild. Strong hands hold the few out there.

2dueces

Amazing to me that holders have a value. I’m betting the holder is more valuable than the coin in some instances.

DelawareDoons

The original black ones are very easy to differentiate between no prongs and the fact the grades are on the reverse... Yes, the reverse.

ricko

I know I do not have one of those....If I find one at a yard sale I will let everyone know.... Cheers, RickO

SeattleSlammer

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1048315/wtb-ngc-gen-1-black-holder-with-morgan-dollar-offering-5-000-and-up

astrorat

Only the original black inserts.

If it has a prong ... it is all wrong.

Edited to add:

If the hole is round ... the holder is sound.

trueblood

Even if the old original black holder no longer contains a coin it is considered rare by plastic collectors, crazy

oreville

The old NGC black slabs will be our hobby 's answer to the NFT's!

I fully expect these NGC black slab will soon exceed $10,000 in value each.

Crazy.

ricko

"I fully expect these NGC black slab will soon exceed $10,000 in value each."... @oreville... Wow... Never thought they could reach such levels... I guess I will be a tad more diligent in my search - I was not even searching for one until these threads showed up... Cheers, RickO

1630Boston

It’s not as wild as the Regency or doily, but the piece most coveted by slab collectors is the NGC black. The first NGC production slab, this one has no hologram, and a black insert instead of the familiar white insert surrounding the coin. Lustrous coins such as gold or white silver popped against the black, but brown copper or circulated silver coins faded into the background. NGC quickly switched to the white insert they still use today.

Estimates of the number of remaining NGC blacks range from 25 to 200, but it is clear that they rarely appear for sale and bring strong prices. (This does not include “retro” black holders made by NGC starting in 2013). As an example, in 2016 GreatCollections sold one with an MS65 1946-D half dollar ($50 in the NGC price guide) for $3,740 including buyer’s premium.

1630Boston

@Mr_Spud
Here's a thread on 'collectible' slabs
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1054556/buy-the-holder-not-the-coin-10-certification-slabs-to-look-for#latest

Mr_Spud

@1630Boston said:
@Mr_Spud
Here's a thread on 'collectible' slabs
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1054556/buy-the-holder-not-the-coin-10-certification-slabs-to-look-for#latest

Thanks 🌞