I don’t know the first thing about coins or grading them. Or you.
But I did look at your sets.
I think you should try to reach out to PSA. Getting tough grades twice in 17 years (probably more) is pretty decent out of thousands of coins.
This is coming from a guy who was stood up at Woodbridge yesterday and then found out that a Collectors Club sub is now treated as Economy today. So I’m not exactly bursting with enthusiasm at the moment, myself.
Believe me you have every right to be upset but I’d hate to see you cut off your nose to spite your face when the coins look so marvelous and you clearly have a pretty good idea of what a good one should look like.
And from one collector to another, your collection is marvelous with or without ‘em!
Good luck whatever happens!
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This is coming from a guy who was stood up at Woodbridge yesterday and then found out that a Collectors Club sub is now treated as Economy today. So I’m not exactly bursting with enthusiasm at the moment, myself.
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Good luck whatever happens!
this boat is getting crowded. feeling the same way w/ my express and regular subs that are now taking twice as long with crappier grades coming out each and every day. dropping $50-75 a card x 100+ cards peppered throughout several different subs. i'm a realist and can expect a certain level of delays at every level but when you go twice the amount of time when you've specifically subbed cards (and not necessarily high dollar cards) based off a certain, realistic time line for the premium paid and they aren't delivering, there's a serious problem.
i wouldn't necessarily say ive lost faith just yet, but i most certainly feel slighted. with each passing day i feel less and less confident in anything that is said, posted or listed. and with the amount of things i have in the pipeline, it's more than a little concerning. of course all this could have been easily cleared up with honest communications or by publishing honest information. i would have made different decisions.
for the first time i'm actually looking into some of the newer grading companies out there. i don't want to, but rather have things in place should the ship hit the proverbial iceberg. water temp is dropping fast though.
This is coming from a guy who was stood up at Woodbridge yesterday and then found out that a Collectors Club sub is now treated as Economy today. So I’m not exactly bursting with enthusiasm at the moment, myself.
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Good luck whatever happens!
this boat is getting crowded. feeling the same way w/ my express and regular subs that are now taking twice as long with crappier grades coming out each and every day. dropping $50-75 a card x 100+ cards peppered throughout several different subs. i'm a realist and can expect a certain level of delays at every level but when you go twice the amount of time when you've specifically subbed cards (and not necessarily high dollar cards) based off a certain, realistic time line for the premium paid and they aren't delivering, there's a serious problem.
i wouldn't necessarily say ive lost faith just yet, but i most certainly feel slighted. with each passing day i feel less and less confident in anything that is said, posted or listed. and with the amount of things i have in the pipeline, it's more than a little concerning. of course all this could have been easily cleared up with honest communications or by publishing honest information. i would have made different decisions.
for the first time i'm actually looking into some of the newer grading companies out there. i don't want to, but rather have things in place should the ship hit the proverbial iceberg. water temp is dropping fast though.
I sent a card to SGC on March 11 for the first time in many, many years.
I’ll have it back this week, probably before March is over.
Granted, it’s a card that PSA doesn’t grade but it was certainly eye opening. I don’t anticipate SGC overtaking PSA - at all - but their current level of improvement should serve to ensure some level of market competitiveness.
That’s good for collectors for a wide variety of reasons.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
In conversations with a fellow collector, it seems even major auction houses are being forced to wait, as well. Solid cards being pushed to the next auction because they simply won’t be back in time to get them in the catalog.
I know this news makes me - a collector who just wants cards back for the PC - feel a little bit better; not happy anyone is hurting, specifically if it’s their livelihoods, but that it seems PSA is trying their best for everyone somewhat equally.
And I try to remind myself that my cards will still come back looking better and worth more, even though it’s not when I was hoping for time wise.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
First off , I would like to comment on that Bill White coin ! Obviously way over graded in my
opinion , and I watched that coin on E-Bay for probably a period of 6 months at varying
degrees of Buy It Now prices ! Even when that coin was finally put in a auction setting , I just
could not get past the fact that coin was the ugliest Psa 9 I've ever seen !
Now my second question ! Why doesn't Psa put the Lighthouse holograms on the
coin labels ????
Robbie
Collect 1964 Topps Baseball 1963 Fleer Lou Brock Master Set
I am just curious, Noticing that the cert #s are do far apart and that they appear in different generation holders. Could the Bill White have been graded a long time ago and the coin has aged while in the holder. I am no expert, just throwing out there to be considered.
I thought PSA was going to do the right thing but I was wrong.
After I posted this, PSA contacted me and agreed to do a 25 coin review. I sent them 25 coins that were all under-graded. I have sent in over 1000 coins to be graded in the last 17 years and currently own over 500 PSA 9 and PSA 10 coins so I am very familiar with the grading of these coins.
I did not think they would raise the grades on all the coins even though they deserved it but when they said all 25 coins were graded correctly I realized they never had any intension of changing the grades even before they looked at them.
I guess if they changed the grades they would have to admit they were wrong.
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I have a few coins and have had a few graded over the years, I would never have even sent that bill white 9 in for grading figuring it would get a 4-5
these have literally been sitting on my desk for several years in pile of cards.
@mbothner
Mike,
I don’t know the first thing about coins or grading them. Or you.
But I did look at your sets.
I think you should try to reach out to PSA. Getting tough grades twice in 17 years (probably more) is pretty decent out of thousands of coins.
This is coming from a guy who was stood up at Woodbridge yesterday and then found out that a Collectors Club sub is now treated as Economy today. So I’m not exactly bursting with enthusiasm at the moment, myself.
Believe me you have every right to be upset but I’d hate to see you cut off your nose to spite your face when the coins look so marvelous and you clearly have a pretty good idea of what a good one should look like.
And from one collector to another, your collection is marvelous with or without ‘em!
Good luck whatever happens!
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
that ain't white> @1951WheatiesPremium said:
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this boat is getting crowded. feeling the same way w/ my express and regular subs that are now taking twice as long with crappier grades coming out each and every day. dropping $50-75 a card x 100+ cards peppered throughout several different subs. i'm a realist and can expect a certain level of delays at every level but when you go twice the amount of time when you've specifically subbed cards (and not necessarily high dollar cards) based off a certain, realistic time line for the premium paid and they aren't delivering, there's a serious problem.
i wouldn't necessarily say ive lost faith just yet, but i most certainly feel slighted. with each passing day i feel less and less confident in anything that is said, posted or listed. and with the amount of things i have in the pipeline, it's more than a little concerning. of course all this could have been easily cleared up with honest communications or by publishing honest information. i would have made different decisions.
for the first time i'm actually looking into some of the newer grading companies out there. i don't want to, but rather have things in place should the ship hit the proverbial iceberg. water temp is dropping fast though.
I sent a card to SGC on March 11 for the first time in many, many years.
I’ll have it back this week, probably before March is over.
Granted, it’s a card that PSA doesn’t grade but it was certainly eye opening. I don’t anticipate SGC overtaking PSA - at all - but their current level of improvement should serve to ensure some level of market competitiveness.
That’s good for collectors for a wide variety of reasons.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
I also want mention this:
In conversations with a fellow collector, it seems even major auction houses are being forced to wait, as well. Solid cards being pushed to the next auction because they simply won’t be back in time to get them in the catalog.
I know this news makes me - a collector who just wants cards back for the PC - feel a little bit better; not happy anyone is hurting, specifically if it’s their livelihoods, but that it seems PSA is trying their best for everyone somewhat equally.
And I try to remind myself that my cards will still come back looking better and worth more, even though it’s not when I was hoping for time wise.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
First off , I would like to comment on that Bill White coin ! Obviously way over graded in my
opinion , and I watched that coin on E-Bay for probably a period of 6 months at varying
degrees of Buy It Now prices ! Even when that coin was finally put in a auction setting , I just
could not get past the fact that coin was the ugliest Psa 9 I've ever seen !
Now my second question ! Why doesn't Psa put the Lighthouse holograms on the
coin labels ????
Robbie
1963 Fleer
Lou Brock Master Set
I am just curious, Noticing that the cert #s are do far apart and that they appear in different generation holders. Could the Bill White have been graded a long time ago and the coin has aged while in the holder. I am no expert, just throwing out there to be considered.
Matt
I thought PSA was going to do the right thing but I was wrong.
After I posted this, PSA contacted me and agreed to do a 25 coin review. I sent them 25 coins that were all under-graded. I have sent in over 1000 coins to be graded in the last 17 years and currently own over 500 PSA 9 and PSA 10 coins so I am very familiar with the grading of these coins.
I did not think they would raise the grades on all the coins even though they deserved it but when they said all 25 coins were graded correctly I realized they never had any intension of changing the grades even before they looked at them.
I guess if they changed the grades they would have to admit they were wrong.
That's unfortunate to hear. I'd feel jipped for sure.
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
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Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
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