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erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,286 ✭✭✭✭✭

I know its not technically a US coin, but they circulated in the US. I need an opinion on this coin. Is it a real? What is it worth? Looks AUish with possible old cleaning and an obvious hole.


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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know if it's real or what it's worth. But I wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't even consider it.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am definitely not an expert on Reales, however, based on some fakes I have seen, I would say that 'may' be fake. The image looks strange. Cheers, RickO

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I carry an 1807 that is well worn compared to that one. With the hole I'd say it was a necklace piece. I'd post on the world coin forum but I'd say it looks real.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2021 12:01PM

    I’d lean toward real.
    No idea if this is a better date or variety, but assuming it’s common, the hole likely reduces the value to somewhere around melt, or perhaps a small premium.

    It seems that many of these were abused. I bought a group of them in a large estate a number of years ago, and many of them had some issue; counterstamps, graffiti, holes, etc.

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I lean to it being genuine. The funky surfaces, I believe, are a product of surface damage (those are definitely not original--not a possible old cleaning) and the lighting. One quick test is to flip the coin and see if it rings. Some counterfeits may be silver, but many are not.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obverse looks real while the reverse looks soft and funky. Either way, the surfaces are miles and miles away from untouched.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say it's worth $40.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks real. Would make a spiffy pocket piece.

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  • truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭

    For under $50 why not

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a shipwreck recovery coin based on the dull surfaces.

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  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Genuine.

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  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40-50$ open auction on eBay -12%

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2021 2:13PM

    This one is a low end UNC for comparison

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ..to the OP... it's not technically a US coin but I'm considering one to round out a "Box of 20" after I finish my type set... Cool old coins that circulated in the US before we were a country. I'd love to find one from the French-Indian War era...

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  • Early_Milled_Latin_America Early_Milled_Latin_America Posts: 6,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2021 7:37PM

    @amwldcoin said:
    I would say it's worth $40.

    @amwldcoin said:
    I would say it's worth $40.

    Can't be much more than that with the hole I would pass on it the only holed coins I don't mind owning are the norm for certain Mexican coins like the 1/2 reales royals.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,696 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tend to think OP's coin is genuine, but long use as a pocket piece, probably polished several times. Reason being that Carolus III and Carolus IIII had very distinctive noses and the counterfeits I've seen just don't get them right.

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  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not only circulate it was legal tender amazing they are not common.

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks ok to me.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know much about that coin ... but I do like it!

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd hazard a guess that it is real(e)

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