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1874 CC trade dollar with mint error

The u in united is missing,supposed to weigh 420 grains, had it weighed it weighs 419 grains. had it looked at by 4 different dealers no one caught the missing u. until i posted it for sale. got a e-mail asking what happened to the u in united. I didn't know myself.I've researched it no more out there that i can find. What is my chances of this being the real mc coy.If not real it will cost me more than it's worth to have graded. DON'T Know what to do.


  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Post a photo here in this thread. ;)

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We can help, but need good clear photos or scans
    of both sides of the coin, and a closer photo of the
    area you mentioned.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
    for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022

  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From those images it certainly looks counterfeit to me, so I wouldn't worry about the missing U

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree it looks like a modern counterfeit.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome, the rough and crude condition of the obv indicates that it is a fake. Would you tell us how and when you acquired it? Peace Roy

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buying a trade dollar uncertified is a very risky affair given the number of counterfeits available.

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • I got it from my DAD'S estate, NO idea where he got it.

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunately it is a counterfeit.

    Young Numismatist/collector
    70 Positive BST transactions buying and selling with 42 members and counting!

  • YOU GUYS HAVE BUSTED MY BUBBLE. I know my grandfather had a lot of old coins, and my dad ended up with a portion of them. Hoping this one was true and good.

  • A counterfeit coin, is it still 90% silver and can be sold as a silver dollar?

  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a counterfeit and cannot ethically-legally-morally be sold as a silver dollar. It may or may not have some percentage silver.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,012 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it makes a nice ring when you drop it on a countertop, it COULD be silver, but I think you would have to have someone like a jeweler or coin dealer test it with an electronic device to know for sure. I don't think you can sell it without it being marked COPY or REPLICA stamped into the metal. Sorry for the disappointment. A lot of counterfeit trade dollars made their way into old collections.

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome and sorry your Trade dollar didn't turn out to be what you thought it would be. This is a highly counterfeited series.

    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • The only thing left is i don't have any money tied up. So i haven't lost anything but hope!!!!!!!!!

  • cccoinscccoins Posts: 279 ✭✭✭✭

    It looks like the N is backwards as well.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,728 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Counterfeit trade dollars have been coming out of Asia in large numbers since the 1990's.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I once heard that there are more fake trade dollars than real ones.

    bob :(

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), [email protected]
  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kaz said:
    I don't think you can sell it without it being marked COPY or REPLICA stamped into the metal.

    The HPA is very clear that copies or replicas be stamped "COPY".

    Also, I assume that the provisions of the HPA were not retroactive, so if this was an old copy then no marking was required.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @wheatiesonebigcoin.... Welcome aboard... Sorry for the bad news, but this coin has been widely counterfeited, and yours is not even a good counterfeit. I hope you have better luck with other coins you have inherited. Cheers, RickO

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