Great article in Coin World about how the late date Proof-only Trade Dollars might be "medals"

CaptHenway

There is a fabulous article by Roger Burdette in the March issue of Coin World (real paper copy sold in coin stores and news stands) that makes a compelling case that the late date, proof-only Trade Dollars may have been struck and carried on the Mint's accounts as "medals" rather than "coins." I highly recommend that you track down a copy of it and read it, or subscribe to Coin World Online and read it there.

TD

jmlanzaf

I assume that is after they were demonetized in 1876?

Cameonut

I miss Roger on this forum.

CaptHenway

@jmlanzaf said:
I assume that is after they were demonetized in 1876?

No, this is something entirely new.

coinsarefun

Thanks for posting this. I’ll read it online. I airways wondered if they were really medals.....
.....but, what do I know

Zoins

Very interesting.

I wonder how customer-ordered fantasy coins and restrikes are carried on the Mint's books?

ms70

Looking forward to checking that out. Thanks!

Crypto

@Cameonut said:
I miss Roger on this forum.

I miss him the 95% he isn’t talking crazy. I will concede my ratio of crazy talk is most likely much higher but I guess it comes down to who you direct it to.

ricko

@CaptHenway .... Thanks for the alert... I will get a copy.... Sounds very interesting. Cheers, RickO

Crypto

When they were even on their books by the end. They were made in similar quantities to the other proofs and sold with the regular issue full sets so the distinction is almost purely academic.

TurtleCat

I guess that will be coming in the mail in the next few days. Sounds interesting. I wonder if the 1913 Liberty nickel was “handled” similarly?

Zoins

@TurtleCat said:
I guess that will be coming in the mail in the next few days. Sounds interesting. I wonder if the 1913 Liberty nickel was “handled” similarly?

I’m guessing those weren’t even accounted for. Except maybe as missing blank planchets?

jmlanzaf

@TurtleCat said:
I guess that will be coming in the mail in the next few days. Sounds interesting. I wonder if the 1913 Liberty nickel was “handled” similarly?

The Mint has no records of ever striking the 1913 Liberty Nickel. At one time, there was speculation that it was not even struck at the Mint.

dbldie55

It is a real good read. Not sure how the1913 gets into a conversion about the 1880's.

jmlanzaf

I think any Trade Dollar after 1876 has to be a "medal" because they were demonetized and no longer "coins". That's an interesting philosophical discussion, but I'm not sure it changes anything.

MsMorrisine

yeah!

I was waiting for the use of monetized.

koynekwest

@Cameonut said:
I miss Roger on this forum.

As do I.

HoledandCreative

Darn, just bought an expensive 1879 medal!

Zoins

@Cameonut said:
I miss Roger on this forum.

He is ATS and available to chat there.

MrEureka

@jmlanzaf said:
I think any Trade Dollar after 1876 has to be a "medal" because they were demonetized and no longer "coins". That's an interesting philosophical discussion, but I'm not sure it changes anything.

Trade coins struck exclusively for overseas use are still coins. And there were a lot of business strikes struck in 77-78. Anyway, I’ll have to read the article.

trueblood

A noted researcher is:
still a man with an opinion(s)
still puts each pant leg on one at a time
still can make mistakes like all of us

Crypto

@trueblood said:
A noted researcher is:
still a man
still puts each pant leg on one at a time
still can make mistakes like all

Did anybody say otherwise? Is that a convoluted way of saying you disagree?