1958 ddo
Josha113n
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1958 ddo 
Rare find just need a second eye
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Josha113n
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Sorry but no dice.. better resolution pics would also improve your chances of getting accurate responses
Good luck🤙
Actually, your response was quite accurate.👍
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
nope
not a ddo but it does have a decent amount of damage
1958 DDO is not a coin one will find in the wild
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
It does not look like the most famous and valuable 1958 DDO.
http://doubleddie.com/365001.html
can't tell a thing from those photos.
and why are they angled?
Are you asking if it’s a doubled die because you think it looks like one or because you want it to be one? If you look (with your eyes wide open) at pictures of graded doubled dies and compare them to your coin, you should be able to answer your own question quite easily.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
it's not one of the dramatic one.
if it ever were one of the minor ones, you'd never know now due to the heavy damage
For this one, if you have to ask, then you don't have it.
here is yours cropped so it will display larger
I appreciate the point you're trying to make. In this case, I don't think it will help.
There are two things that could very well keep someone from seeing what is a doubled die and what is not: 1) They are not willing to take the time to read, look at coins carefully, and learn what a doubled die looks like, and 2) they do not have the eye to see the difference, in any case.
If you haven't got it, you haven't got it. Sometimes, the most helpful thing we can do is to tell someone they haven't got it and suggest they find a hobby that is better suited to their abilities.
on the more dramatic varieties, including the image you showed of the date, there is a clear second date "hiding" next to the other. then there is the more dramatic variety that has IGWT that has letter hiding next to a letter.
there is none of that on the above coin.
as far as this is concerned, if you are sure it is a DDO, then you are welcome to submit it for certification (but you'd be throwing money away)
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Well ok then... nothing useful that I can say. If you made a few thousand in 11 days... hope it was with something other than the couple of coins that you posted. They are not doubled dies that I can see.
That's amazing. What coins did you acquire and/or sell that made you thousands of dollars in such a short period of time? Did you sell them to a dealer or on eBay?
It's hard to make money in coins without having a lot of knowledge. How did you you learn so much in such a short period of time? Please share your story
But you can't identify a 58 DD?
You've been collecting for 11 days but already have managed to find and sell all those coins?
That must be some kind of record.
@Josha113n "And just had 2 of my 11 92 close am verified and appraised by a ngc certified dealer"
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Are your 11 92's close AM P's or D's?
Do you have photos?
If you could post good photos there is a chance you could sell some here.
He has photos of them on the Buy/Sell/Trade forum.
MY GOLD TYPE SET https://pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/gold-type-set-12-piece-circulation-strikes-1839-1933/publishedset/321940
Oh, I see that now.
11 days of experience produces 11 close AM's.
Not based on the pictures of any of the ones posted on the BST.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
So you are saying you believe the coins you found are worth a few $1000, but you have not actually sold them yet.
Unfortunately if you are not very good at identifying these varieties and selling them, this "a few $1000" could be imaginary.
So you haven't really proven anything yet in the market.
Thanks for posting the photos, though. Our goal is to help people here. Even if it sounds less than generous at times.
@MFeld "Not based on the pictures of any of the ones posted on the BST."
What?!?!?
Are you saying he didn't more than double the PCGS population on a rare error overnight?
Are you sure? He has learned more in a week than any of us have in years.
If you are going to sell coins online you need to work on your photo skills. Just sayin
Not a 1958 DDO.
Give him time, he is still young
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
His reading comprehension is just fine. You originally wrote “ And just had 2 of my 11 92 close am verified and appraised by a ngc certified dealer”. That indicated that you had 11 (not 2) Close AM examples and that 2 of them had already been “verified and appraised”. If you had 2, the way to convey that would/should have been “And just had 2 of my 11 1992 cents verified and appraised as Close AM examples”.
I look forward to seeing pictures of your two winners, encapsulated as Close AM examples in NGC holders.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Josha113n.... Welcome aboard. Neither of the two coins you have shown in this thread are doubled dies. We have, among our members here, some of the top numismatists in the country. They freely give information and help to others. Many of the numismatic reference books have been written by these members. If you do not want to accept the information provided here, you could submit your coins to our hosts for authentication and encapsulation. If you are right, that will maximize your profit. Good luck... Cheers, RickO
I want the two minutes of my life back that I just spent reading this thread.
Don't feed the trolls.
To be fair, he said "verified and appraised by a NGC certified dealer", not "verified and appraised by NGC".
I noticed that. And while I’d be stunned if the coins end up being attributed as Close AM examples, I’d be happy for him.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Hey Josh. I am a variety hunter for the past several decades, I have found literally thousands of Lincoln varieties with well over 2000 Lincoln RPM's in my collection. I have found many discovery pieces. Keep looking and don't get detoured on your search. But with that said.... sometimes while hunting you see things that are not always what they at first appear to be. On these boards for example many many newbies show a coin with blatantly obvious machine doubling that they are certain is much more valuable and collectible hub doubling. Some accept experienced advice and push forward with new knowledge making them more motivated and successful, others will not accept that they are mistaken and tend to argue, get angry and never move forward.
There are some very sharp collectors here and many newbies enjoy and use these boards to better themselves. Please be one of those. Good luck going forward and learn to learn from those that may know more than you.
"Considering how i started this hobby literally 11 days ago"
"Not my fault it took you years to do what took me a week."
"Due to me being new to this i wanted second opinions on what i was not sure off."
"it would not be with those who talk down like they are better."
"I came here to build my knowledge"
"I honestly might have gotten ripped off"
All this from someone that "talks down" to every member here by saying they have learned more in 11 days than we have in years. If you know more than us how can we help you build your knowledge of what you are not sure of? How could there be things you are not sure of with the vast amount of knowledge you acquired in 11 days?
"You claim this and that but you can obviously not read."
"you are simply dumb."
Maybe you should check your writing skills and take a moment to proof read your comments before you hit post.
"I came here to build my knowledge and possible business relationships."
That is funny because I was getting the impression you came here to make yourself look foolish and you are doing a good job..... we don't need to help you with that.
Just keep posting and impressing us with your vast amount of knowledge.
sometimes damage can make... say a 9... look like it has a split on one end. looking at the coin overall, though, it's not a ddo. neither are.
i have been getting others from my demographic and background interested in the possibility of attaining a diamond in the rough.
I guess we'll be seeing them here with their parking lot damaged coins and "errors" soon enough.
"I’ll continue to live with faith in myself, hope for others, and love for all."
Outstanding!
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I hope you stick around and learn from & contribute to the forum.
A slightly more humble approach will get you more productive responses.
We are skeptical for good reason. You posted two coins that don't even have machine doubling and asked if they are DDO. You shouldn't be surprised that we questioned your eyes. And if you think that 1958 is a DD, there is no way you'd ever recognize a 1992 wide.
2 out of 11 must be some kind of record yield.