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1860 Proof Half Dollar

Hi All,

I'd like comments & opinions on this coin.
I'm looking for aspects of coin grade, eye appeal, & the like.

Thanks,

Chris


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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's an attractive coin IMO. I'm not going to venture a guess as to the grade tho.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First impression is proof like but am I seeing nicks on right arm, big ding on left heel and what's the goop in F A on rev? IMO. Peace Roy

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    First impression is proof like but am I seeing nicks on right arm, big ding on left heel and what's the goop in F A on rev? IMO. Peace Roy

    Reasons to believe the coin is Proof and not PL:

    Posted as a Proof by the OP and presumably attributed as a Proof.

    Strike

    Business strike 1860 halves don't typically display PL surfaces.

    The areas around the letters LIBERTY on the obverse shield and next to the vertical shield stripes on the reverse look as brilliant as the fields. This isn't necessarily a make or break determination of the method of manufacture, but it will work much more often than not.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s a gorgeous coin. I won’t hazard what would be a total stab at a grade.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin and pictures.... Looks as if some serious spots are developing on the right side of Liberty (as viewed)... Cheers, RickO

  • Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks in the 61-62 range. Proofs were almost always wiped or cleaned back in the old days and finding one's with truly original surfaces, and exquisite color can be difficult...especially in grades that are affordable! This coin looks like it was cleaned lightly a long time ago and it re-toned naturally over the years. I love seated proof material. Good luck.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Eldorado9 said:
    Looks in the 61-62 range. Proofs were almost always wiped or cleaned back in the old days and finding one's with truly original surfaces, and exquisite color can be difficult...especially in grades that are affordable! This coin looks like it was cleaned lightly a long time ago and it re-toned naturally over the years. I love seated proof material. Good luck.

    This is part of the problem with trying to assess the grade of a Proof coin based upon images. I don't see hairlines that should or would account for a grade that low. But that doesn't mean they aren't present, just not showing in the images.

    If I had to guess a grade, I'd go with PR64. However, nothing within a range of PR63 to PR65 would surprise me in the least.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 9,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just say no to glamour shots.

    Coin might be nice.

  • Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Eldorado9 said:
    Looks in the 61-62 range. Proofs were almost always wiped or cleaned back in the old days and finding one's with truly original surfaces, and exquisite color can be difficult...especially in grades that are affordable! This coin looks like it was cleaned lightly a long time ago and it re-toned naturally over the years. I love seated proof material. Good luck.

    This is part of the problem with trying to assess the grade of a Proof coin based upon images. I don't see hairlines that should or would account for a grade that low. But that doesn't mean they aren't present, just not showing in the images.

    If I had to guess a grade, I'd go with PR64. However, nothing within a range of PR63 to PR65 would surprise me in the least.

    Agree, hard to grade proofs from pics. For educational purposes, here is what I firmly believe is an original coin. These 1860-1865 proof halves generally take on the same characteristics. This is what they look like without the cleaning and secondary toning. Many of these coins seem to have some minor upset to the toning in the fields, where something has come into contact with the coin over the years:

  • So the coin is a proof graded by PCGS.

    From the comments, I do see the gash in her upper arm.

    The goop are tarnish spots.

    As stated by the group there are hairlines.

    The original photos are the TrueView by PCGS. It seems they photograph on a straight-on angle.

    Below are my amateur photos.
    I'm NO Ansel Adams but maybe more comments on the coin would be appreciated.

    She does have a very light cameo contrast and the field looks a little hazy. Probably from a wiping in the past as stated by the group.

    Thanks,

    Chris




  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin, 62 appears to be an accurate grade.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Easy on the eyes, but some hairline scratches may hold it back. Hard not to like it though.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin doesn't look as nice in the newer photos and 62 appears to be a fair grade.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin!

  • @MFeld said:
    The coin doesn't look as nice in the newer photos and 62 appears to be a fair grade.

    That may be due to my amateur photography.

    I think she is a keeper. Then, again, I did buy her so I'm biased.

    Chris

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