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2017-S $1 Native American lamination error

Recently purchased a 225th Anniversary Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set and found what appears to be a lamination error.
What is the Universes opinion on grading, keeping in Mint packaging, and lastly value?

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wonder what others think. not the standard-looking strike-through.

    that must be determined first to determine the other things.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say struck thru (possibly retained), not lamination.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good close up pic but a shot of the whole coin might help with the eye appeal judgement.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell from the photo, but it's possible
    you're seeing a small piece of plastic laying
    ON top of the coin when it was sealed.

    Is there any underlying indentation under
    the plastic, or is is just on top of the lettering?

    Not saying it's not a S/T, but I can't tell for sure
    from the one photo angle only.

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  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm also thinking retained strike through

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  • Here are some more pics



  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,601 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it looks like something on the coin

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Oldhoopster said:
    I'm also thinking retained strike through

    This.

  • Pretty much convinced it's a "struck through"
    Any value?
    Should I get it graded?

  • It is/was a retained struck through and the piece moved and I retained it see new pic.

    Is there any more advice on what to do with this coin, normally I would just treat it as a struck through, but I have never seen this on a proof enhanced coin before.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,143 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2021 3:34PM

    You took the piece of foreign matter off the coin??? :s

    Yikes. :'(

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It was worth more being retained.

    Now it just a strike thru :'(

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In hand it should have been possible to see if it was plastic struck into the coin or if it was just loose plastic laying on the holder or coin's surface. There was no reason to play with around with it. :#

    What made it especially special is now lost. :/

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's see a pic of the coin surface after the removal of the object.

    It just looked like a glop of glue to me.

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  • Here are the after pics...still very cool and maybe prophetic...




  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too bad you removed the piece.... Great pictures though. Cheers, RickO

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if PCGS would put the two separate pieces in a double holder.

    It may actually be worth more that way ;)

  • Strike throughs put me a bit on edge, I have an 1880-O Morgan that is a struck through grease, and it still had the grease on the coin and when I sent it into PCGS it came back altered surface, so I resubmitted it back to PCGS this time with conservation, and it came back without the grease and graded MS62 and Struck-Through Grease Obv (38561446).

    I spent way more on the conservation and double grading than the coins 'book' value, but it was such a unique find, I couldn't resist.

    I think error collecting is one of the niche numismatic areas that is hard to quantify, but is extremely exciting.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2021 11:52AM

    @FredWeinberg said:
    No, that small piece of 'plastic' would:

    1. be too small to put in it's own holder
    2. it will vaporize when the sonic sealer seals the holder
      (I know, as this actually happened to me before)

    Thanks Fred.

    Your term "vaporize " reminded me of this very funny movie ....

  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I wonder if PCGS would put the two separate pieces in a double holder.

    It may actually be worth more that way ;)

    had the same thought looking at this photo - wouldn't it be incredible to have this holdered 😄

    good lessons in this thread 👍

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