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2004-D Kennedy's grade?
Namvet69
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These nice 2004-D Kennedy's were in a tight roll of halves. Most were not noteworthy except for these guys. Redbook says these were only minted for collectors. I know they're not proof but what are they? Grade guesses are welcome. Peace Roy
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They are called NIFCs (Not Intended For Circulation). They include all haves minted from 2002-Present as thy are only sold on the mint website and not released into general circulation.
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@Kliao I shall note the NIFC. Thanks. Do you know why the 2009-D&P NIFC's are a satin finish but these are not?
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I am not sure. Possibly the 2009's came from a mint set? I don't think the mint would make coins with a stain finish only to be put in rolls and bags to be sold to the public.
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@Kliao Last question, would you consider these MS or BU or what?
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Personally I use both plus UNC. I don't think it matters too much.
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@Namvet69... Based on your pictures, I would categorize them as MS....Cheers, RickO
Based on my experience having these coins graded, the P would be MS63 and the D would be MS65. Modern coins in most cases seem to have the grades set 1 to 2 numbers lower than the PCGS description of the grade. Just compare an MS65 Morgan dollar to a modern MS65 Kennedy Half and you'll see the Kennedy nearly perfect and the Morgan looks to have been run over on the road a few times.
@smalltime thanks for your insight. They're both D's, which one IYO is the 65?
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The one at the top of the picture.
Okay thanks
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https://www.coinnews.net/2010/12/22/satin-finish-ends-on-us-mint-sets/
there is some consternation from bank coin roll hunters getting their coins labelled SF instead of plain MS.
I went through boxes an boxes of presidential dollars during those years and so many seemed SF.
@MsMorrisine So I feel fortunate to have been able to find 11 MS quality satin 09's in both P&D, the rest aren't too shabby, just a ding or two. I wonder how much care is taken to move NIFC coins into packaging. Peace Roy
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rolls and bags coins don't get much love
People buy the rolls and bags, keep a few, and then dump the rest. I am about to do that with some dollar coins and JFKs.
As for satin finish halfs, for a few years (not sure the dates) the mint sets were SF.