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Is there such a thing as an !883/83 shield nickel?

I have a friend who thinks he has such a thing (in AU) but I'm not finding anything about such a coin existing. Any thoughts?

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  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is an 1883/2 shield nickel, I do not know if there is a 1883/3. There are not very many shield nickel collectors, but there is a reference book out there somewhere on Shield nickels. Not a long running series but there are more varieties out there then you may think. Finding all the varieties could be a challenge.

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  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Edward Fletcher lists a couple Repunched dates in The Shield Five Cent Series, although they appear to be minor. Two are cross referenced as FS 012.8 and 012.9. I have the 1994 edition, so I'm not sure if the FS references are accurate

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    I have a friend who thinks he has such a thing (in AU) but I'm not finding anything about such a coin existing. Any thoughts?

    here is a step in the right direction.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anything is possible when it comes to 1883 Shield Nickels. They were an interim emergency issue that were apparently struck after the 1883 Liberty "No Cents" variety was discontinued. The 1883 Shield Nickels were discontinued when the 1883 Liberty "With Cents" variety dies were ready for use. There are several different 1883/2 Shield Nickel dies and a repunched 83/83 is always possible as the mint rushed to prepare dies for the issue.

    There are so many varieties in the Shield Nickel series that finding new ones remains a possibility for current collectors.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Anything is possible when it comes to 1883 Shield Nickels. They were an interim emergency issue that were apparently struck after the 1883 Liberty "No Cents" variety was discontinued. The 1883 Shield Nickels were discontinued when the 1883 Liberty "With Cents" variety dies were ready for use. There are several different 1883/2 Shield Nickel dies and a repunched 83/83 is always possible as the mint rushed to prepare dies for the issue.

    There are so many varieties in the Shield Nickel series that finding new ones remains a possibility for current collectors.

    And nickels in general tended to have a lot of repunched dates and mint marks because the striking of the nickel metal was so hard on the dies that they seem to have been constantly reworked.

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that a mismatched dies of a Shield / Liberty Nickel would be cool!

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,354 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I used to dabble in them (still have a partial set) and if my memory serves me, I have seen what I would consider an 1883/883 or 1883/83 business strike, along with several other minor re-punching's and date area die chips, all which are sometimes confused as 1883/2


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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pursuitofliberty said:
    I used to dabble in them (still have a partial set) and if my memory serves me, I have seen what I would consider an 1883/883 or 1883/83 business strike, along with several other minor re-punching's and date area die chips, all which are sometimes confused as 1883/2

    Definitely a lot of die chips and other issues. I sometimes used to think that if you could find a clean 1883 date that you would have a real rarity.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    I think that a mismatched dies of a Shield / Liberty Nickel would be cool!

    That is not likely to happen since the diameter of the two types was not the same.

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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2021 11:35AM

    A good first step would be to look at Howard Spindel's photos and descriptions of the (five) known 1883/2 varieties -
    perhaps it is one of them.
    http://www.shieldnickels.net/1883_2/1883_2.html

  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2021 1:59PM

    @291fifth said:
    Anything is possible when it comes to 1883 Shield Nickels. They were an interim emergency issue that were apparently struck after the 1883 Liberty "No Cents" variety was discontinued. The 1883 Shield Nickels were discontinued when the 1883 Liberty "With Cents" variety dies were ready for use. There are several different 1883/2 Shield Nickel dies and a repunched 83/83 is always possible as the mint rushed to prepare dies for the issue.

    There are so many varieties in the Shield Nickel series that finding new ones remains a possibility for current collectors.

    Where did you see they were struck after the Liberty Nickels were struck?

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dbldie55 said:

    @291fifth said:
    Anything is possible when it comes to 1883 Shield Nickels. They were an interim emergency issue that were apparently struck after the 1883 Liberty "No Cents" variety was discontinued. The 1883 Shield Nickels were discontinued when the 1883 Liberty "With Cents" variety dies were ready for use. There are several different 1883/2 Shield Nickel dies and a repunched 83/83 is always possible as the mint rushed to prepare dies for the issue.

    There are so many varieties in the Shield Nickel series that finding new ones remains a possibility for current collectors.

    Where did you see they were struck after the Liberty Nickels were struck?

    I read this in a book many years back. Unfortunately, I don't remember just what book. (I used to collect Shield Nickels but sold the collection and books.)

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for all the input.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:

    @dbldie55 said:

    @291fifth said:
    Anything is possible when it comes to 1883 Shield Nickels. They were an interim emergency issue that were apparently struck after the 1883 Liberty "No Cents" variety was discontinued. The 1883 Shield Nickels were discontinued when the 1883 Liberty "With Cents" variety dies were ready for use. There are several different 1883/2 Shield Nickel dies and a repunched 83/83 is always possible as the mint rushed to prepare dies for the issue.

    There are so many varieties in the Shield Nickel series that finding new ones remains a possibility for current collectors.

    Where did you see they were struck after the Liberty Nickels were struck?

    I read this in a book many years back. Unfortunately, I don't remember just what book. (I used to collect Shield Nickels but sold the collection and books.)

    I had never heard that the 1883 Shield nickels were struck after the No CENTS Liberty's.

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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2021 3:21PM

    I found this on wikipedia, citing Peters and Mohon:

    The Barber design was first struck on Jan. 30, 1883 and placed in circulation Feb. 1, 1883. Mint officials desired to discourage hoarding and speculation of 1883 proof Shield nickels, and received permission on Feb. 6, 1883 to continue production of proof Shield nickels concurrent with proofs of the new Liberty Head nickel. Proof Shield nickels continued to be struck until June 26, 1883 when the last 1500 proof shield nickels were produced.[32]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_nickel

    Page 7 of Peters and Mohon has a little more info:
    https://archive.org/details/compguideshieldliberty1995pete/page/n17/mode/1up

  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:
    I found this on wikipedia, citing Peters and Mohon:

    The Barber design was first struck on Jan. 30, 1883 and placed in circulation Feb. 1, 1883. Mint officials desired to discourage hoarding and speculation of 1883 proof Shield nickels, and received permission on Feb. 6, 1883 to continue production of proof Shield nickels concurrent with proofs of the new Liberty Head nickel. Proof Shield nickels continued to be struck until June 26, 1883 when the last 1500 proof shield nickels were produced.[32]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_nickel

    Page 7 of Peters and Mohon has a little more info:
    https://archive.org/details/compguideshieldliberty1995pete/page/n17/mode/1up

    This is proof nickels, not business strikes.

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