New Carson City Trade Dollar medal from Intaglio...

jwitten · January 8, 2021 6:05PM

I'm a big fan of this company... they have some really really nice 2 ounce silver rounds. This was released today. I picked up a few normal and a few antiqued. They had about 100 in stock earlier, and it's down to 16, last I looked. Just thought I'd give a heads up for those that may be interested.
https://limitedmintage.com/product/libertas-americana-medal-tribute-2-troy-ounce-39mm/

jwitten · January 8, 2021 7:14PM

Well, sold out now. Hopefully some of you got some! They will hopefully have more in stock soon.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 8, 2021 7:44PM

glad I got one when I did

MilesWaits · January 8, 2021 7:47PM

Arggghhhhhhhh. Come on back now.
That said, dig it and as JWitten said, great rounds.

JBK · January 8, 2021 9:27PM

Nice.

Namvet69 · January 9, 2021 11:34AM

Really nicely executed. I got on the waiting list for this piece. Peace Roy

Twobitcollector · January 9, 2021 3:17PM

I ordered it antiqued
I always wanted one and this will do me just fine

coinsarefun · January 9, 2021 4:45PM

I got one of each. Do we know if they will be minting more? Or is I limited ?

Zoins · January 9, 2021 5:21PM

@coinsarefun said:
I got one of each. Do we know if they will be minting more? Or is I limited ?

Glad to hear it Stef!

Can't wait to see your pics

Zoins · January 9, 2021 5:23PM

@jwitten said:
I'm a big fan of this company... they have some really really nice 2 ounce silver rounds. This was released today. I picked up a few normal and a few antiqued. They had about 100 in stock earlier, and it's down to 16, last I looked. Just thought I'd give a heads up for those that may be interested.

Mark Bogani and Tony Grat also put out a lot of original designs but I don't see a lot of the posted or discussed. The tribute rounds seem to have the most interest here.

Anyone collect their original designs?

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 9, 2021 5:40PM

@coinsarefun said:
I got one of each. Do we know if they will be minting more? Or is I limited ?

from my experience with their site over the past several years, they will be minting more - make sure you sign up for a reminder and they'll holler when more are avail

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 9, 2021 5:46PM

@Zoins said:

Mark Bogani and Tony Grat also put out a lot of original designs but I don't see a lot of the posted or discussed. The tribute rounds seem to have the most interest here.

Anyone collect their original designs?

I really liked the saint of numismatics series - kind of fell of a cliff since the st eligius medal, but asked them if they'll be picking the series back up in 2021 and they said they would be

Zoins · January 9, 2021 5:48PM

Saint Eligius> @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:

@Zoins said:

Mark Bogani and Tony Grat also put out a lot of original designs but I don't see a lot of the posted or discussed. The tribute rounds seem to have the most interest here.

Anyone collect their original designs?

I really liked the saint of numismatics series - kind of fell of a cliff since the st eligius medal, but asked them if they'll be picking the series back up in 2021 and they said they would be

The Saint Eligius medal is a very nice one!

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 9, 2021 5:49PM

esp the 5 oz 😎 @Zoins

Zoins · January 9, 2021 5:52PM

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
esp the 5 oz 😎 @Zoins

Nice!

I wish Mark and Tony would publish the designers and sculptors for their pieces but I haven't seen any information yeet. Anyone know who designs and sculpts their pieces?

coinsarefun · January 9, 2021 6:19PM

@Zoins said:

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
esp the 5 oz 😎 @Zoins

Nice!

I wish Mark and Tony would publish the designers and sculptors for their pieces but I haven't seen any information yeet. Anyone know who designs and sculpts their pieces?

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I agree. I remember Ron telling me he did a few for them.Can't remember which tho'

koynekwest · January 9, 2021 6:25PM

@jwitten said:
"I'm a big fan of this company... they have some really really nice 2 ounce silver rounds."

As am I. I have the octagonal Pan-Pac $50 and the Walking Liberty 50c. They do some outstanding work.

ricko · January 11, 2021 9:28AM

They do some very nice work.... I have signed up for their Bacchus Wine series.... Cheers, RickO

cheezhed · January 11, 2021 2:01PM

Back up again if interested.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 11, 2021 2:09PM

99 in stock 👀

MilesWaits · January 11, 2021 2:14PM

I was able to pick up a couple that looks like there’s about 60 left so I will leave the rest for all of you! Really beautiful piece and I imagine it will be as stunning as all the other items I have from that Mint.

MilesWaits · January 14, 2021 1:30PM

OK, my two stunning chunky Libertas monkeys just arrived in the mail.
Big, bold and well executed Silver!
And by the way, super fast shipping and well packaged, I would say. And who doesn’t love the design?!

GRANDAM · January 14, 2021 1:42PM

I just ordered 2 antiqued finish and now there are 58 pcs in stock.

They must have restocked.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 14, 2021 1:43PM

@MilesWaits said:
OK, my two stunning chunky Libertas monkeys just arrived in the mail.
Big, bold and well executed Silver!
And by the way, super fast shipping and well packaged, I would say. And who doesn’t love the design?!

photos? 👀😀

GRANDAM · January 14, 2021 1:54PM

Anyone know the max mintage of these?

jwitten · January 14, 2021 4:29PM

@GRANDAM said:
Anyone know the max mintage of these?

Most of their stuff has no limit. BUT most of the nice stuff is almost always out of stock. I have some for sale in the bst right now of some of those. I wish they would go the Daniel Carr route and make more limited pieces. I was able to snag two of a 10 limit piece they did.. will try to post some pics when I get home.

GRANDAM · January 14, 2021 5:06PM

Dang you @jwitten,,,,,,,,,, in addition to the (2) Libertas I also ordered (3) Antiqued BigFoot and (4) Mercury Dime silver pcs.

astrorat · January 14, 2021 5:24PM

Back in stock now ... GO! GO! GO!

Kudbegud · January 14, 2021 5:41PM

Thanks for the heads up. Got my order in

jwitten · January 14, 2021 6:06PM

Here are a few of the limited mintage pieces I have from them.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 15, 2021 8:40AM

got it this morning - even more beautiful in-hand

Zoins · January 15, 2021 8:43AM

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
got it this morning - even more beautiful in-hand

They look nice but I just noticed that not only do they not say who does their engraving, they removed Dupre’s Name! As someone who loves giving artists their due, that’s not very cool

I wasn’t going to say anything...until this, but I’ve heard concerns from current artists working with them as well....

ChrisH821 · January 15, 2021 8:52AM

@Zoins said:

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
got it this morning - even more beautiful in-hand

They look nice but I just noticed that not only do they not say who does their engraving, they removed Dupre’s Name! As someone who loves giving artists their due, that’s not very cool

Interesting... I wonder if they removed it when they removed the ground from the design and forgot to put it back.

jwitten · January 15, 2021 8:54AM

@Zoins said:

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
got it this morning - even more beautiful in-hand

They look nice but I just noticed that not only do they not say who does their engraving, they removed Dupre’s Name! As someone who loves giving artists their due, that’s not very cool

I wasn’t going to say anything...until this, but I’ve actually heard concerns from current artists working with them as well....

I seem to remember reading a complaint a couple years ago too, but can't remember exactly what it was.

Zoins · January 15, 2021 8:57AM

@jwitten said:

@Zoins said:

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
got it this morning - even more beautiful in-hand

They look nice but I just noticed that not only do they not say who does their engraving, they removed Dupre’s Name! As someone who loves giving artists their due, that’s not very cool

I wasn’t going to say anything...until this, but I’ve actually heard concerns from current artists working with them as well....

I seem to remember reading a complaint a couple years ago too, but can't remember exactly what it was.

One concern I heard both directly and from someone else that posted it here is from a prominent engraver who is celebrated here with threads and posts on his own work. He's perhaps the most celebrated engraver of our time.

These people aren't sculptors themselves and tend not to give credit to their artists. Because of this modern practice, and the concerns I've heard, I'm more concerned about them removing artist names from pieces they are copying.

Others, like those that do fantasy overstrike coins, will go out of their way to maintain the original artists initials and names.

cardinal · January 15, 2021 9:06AM

@jwitten said:
I'm a big fan of this company... they have some really really nice 2 ounce silver rounds. This was released today. I picked up a few normal and a few antiqued. They had about 100 in stock earlier, and it's down to 16, last I looked. Just thought I'd give a heads up for those that may be interested.
https://limitedmintage.com/product/libertas-americana-medal-tribute-2-troy-ounce-39mm/

Wow....someone else starting a thread about the Libertas Americana medal, and not me!

I see that only 34 are in stock now. 4 days ago there were 99 in stock. @jwitten, Limited Mintage should hire you for their advertising! I thank you for mentioning that they were released on January 8th, so we know they were struck in 2021! I must say, as a "tribute" issue, the quality is quite superb!

The last dated "tribute" issue was struck in 2008 by the Hamilton Jewelry, to celebrate the 225th anniversary of Elias Boudinot's designation of Princeton as the nation's capital.

350 of the these were struck, and they are still available on the Hamilton Jewelry website.

Zoins · January 15, 2021 9:12AM

@cardinal said:
The last dated "tribute" issue was struck in 2008 by the Hamilton Jewelry, to celebrate the 225th anniversary of Elias Boudinot's designation of Princeton as the nation's capital.

350 of the these were struck, and they are still available on the Hamilton Jewelry website.

Nice piece. Here's information from Hamilton Jewelers which mentions the original was done by Esprit-Antoine GIblein and Augustin Dupre.

The Libertas Americana Medallion

This is a reproduction of the Libertas Americana medallion, which was produced in 1783 and presented in Princeton by Benjamin Franklin to Elias Boudinot, commemorating the designation of Princeton as the nation's capital. Considered the most elegant of all American medals. Libertas Americana ("American Liberty") celebrates America's Revolutionary War military victories, specifically the British surrenders at Saratoga (1777). Benjamin Franklin conceived the idea, as a private project to enhance Franco-American goodwill. A preliminary sketch was drawn by painter Esprit-Antoine GIblein, and the dies were engraved by Augustin Dupre. The medals were struck at the Paris Mint in 1783, with two specimens struck in gold for presentation to the King and Queen of France. A few others were struck in silver, and the rest in copper. A re-strike in limited quantities was done by the Paris Mint in 1976 to commemorate the U.S. Bicentennial. Hamilton workshops faithfully re-created the design of the original medal, the only exception being the designation "Tribute to 1783 Princeton, NJ 2008" on the front of the medal. We chose to strike the medal in nickel over copper. Each piece is signed Hamilton and numbered from 001 thru 350.
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$40.00

I'm less concerned about this piece which also doesn't have Dupre's name because this is a one off while the company here is in the business of making reproductions.

I hope they put Dupre's name back on future versions.

cardinal · January 15, 2021 10:58AM

@Zoins said:

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
got it this morning - even more beautiful in-hand

They look nice but I just noticed that not only do they not say who does their engraving, they removed Dupre’s Name! As someone who loves giving artists their due, that’s not very cool

I wasn’t going to say anything...until this, but I’ve heard concerns from current artists working with them as well....

For comparisons - this is an original bronze Libertas Americana medal:

Aside from the missing ground on which Minerva, Hercules, and the British "lion" stand and the credit due to "DUPRE. F", all of the restrikes lack the full cape behind Minerva, making it look more like a scarf or an unrolling roll of toilet paper, rather than a cape.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 15, 2021 11:35AM

love the discussion - some important points - devil's advocate: maybe they made the decision not to include DUPRE. F as that could possibly be read as an attempt to counterfeit the orig --- not saying any collector would make that mistake in distinction, but maybe some sort of regulatory agency might? dunno

Baley · January 15, 2021 11:48AM

A very popular design.

Folks will probably be able to buy newly manufactured copies forever, as long as the insatiable demand is there, the items will be cranked out in endless supply.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 15, 2021 12:51PM

I will say, I comPLETEly agree w others; they need to credit their talented engravers

kaz · January 15, 2021 1:00PM

Thanks for posting about these, I just ordered 2

Kudbegud · January 15, 2021 1:32PM

Yes, thanks @cardinal for posting this. Got my order in.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 15, 2021 1:55PM

new one out - 1st in a series of 4

https://limitedmintage.com/product/1805-c-c-a-u-s-medal-george-washington-2-troy-ounce-39mm/

RB1026 · January 15, 2021 2:00PM

Thanks for posting this! Just got my order in as well (for an antiqued version) Looks like a fantastic piece.

cardinal · January 15, 2021 2:24PM

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
new one out - 1st in a series of 4

https://limitedmintage.com/product/1805-c-c-a-u-s-medal-george-washington-2-troy-ounce-39mm/

Here's a contemporary medal:

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ · January 15, 2021 3:33PM

@cardinal said:

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Here's a contemporary medal:

thank you! prefer that double bust - awesome to see the medals these moderns are based off of

MsMorrisine · January 15, 2021 4:14PM

yeah the contemporary is better. seeing the 2 together, I'd pass on the tribute.

cardinal · January 15, 2021 5:28PM

@MsMorrisine said:
yeah the contemporary is better. seeing the 2 together, I'd pass on the tribute.

Yes, the contemporary is better, but it's like 300 times what the tributes go for!

cardinal · January 15, 2021 5:33PM

A couple more from the contemporary side -----

Baley · January 15, 2021 5:34PM

Copies and "tributes" are the inflatable sex doll of numismatics.

New Carson City Trade Dollar medal from Intaglio...

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