DD must have the day off. Baseball's sticky mess

Justacommeman

No surprise. The money is too big at both the professional and college level. Add cycling and Olympic sports as well.

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Harkins reportedly identified Cole, Verlander, Edwin Jackson, Max Scherzer, Felix Hernandez, Corey Kluber, Joba Chamberlain and Adam Wainwright among the pitchers who requested his pine tar/resin mixture.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/yankees-gerrit-cole-caught-up-in-a-lawsuit-sticky-p

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2021/01/lawsuit-claims-justin-verlander-gerrit-cole-sought-sticky-substance-for-baseball.html

thisistheshow

You're right, the money is too big. And more than that.....there are things that have gone on for a long time, like pitchers using something on the ball. It goes back to before the money, but now that there are literally hundreds of millions of dollars for pitchers....

After the trash can/bullpen cam thing it is obvious that MLB feels the need to look the other way on a lot of things...or else the entirety of the league would be in tatters.

doubledragon

I have been searching relentlessly for a few boxing cards today, but I am watching. I'm always watching.

stevek

I don't understand the lawsuit and how he has any chance of winning it.

He clearly broke an important MLB rule, and was fired because of it.

On top of that he rats out his customers.

Sounds to me like a punk and his scumbag lawyer attempting to extort money using the legal system. The usual strategy of a way too litigious society.

I hope he falls flat on his face.

Justacommeman

You will be able to get this stuff on Amazon Prime soon I suppose.

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perkdog

Oh no!! More “Heroes” are going to get their names dragged through the mud 🙄 Double D please update your time card for taking time off this AM. ☝️

Justacommeman

@perkdog said:
Oh no!! More “Heroes” are going to get their names dragged through the mud 🙄 Double D please update your time card for taking time off this AM. ☝️

No kidding. He's where I get 90% of my sports news

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LarkinCollector

And here I thought this was going to be a thread about all of Jeter's conquests, so disappointed.

doubledragon

Tabe

@stevek said:
I don't understand the lawsuit and how he has any chance of winning it.

He clearly broke an important MLB rule, and was fired because of it.

On top of that he rats out his customers.

Sounds to me like a punk and his scumbag lawyer attempting to extort money using the legal system. The usual strategy of a way too litigious society.

I hope he falls flat on his face.

I think his claim is that the team was aware of his activities - they were - and that approved of them.

Tabe

@thisistheshow said:
You're right, the money is too big. And more than that.....there are things that have gone on for a long time, like pitchers using something on the ball. It goes back to before the money, but now that there are literally hundreds of millions of dollars for pitchers....

After the trash can/bullpen cam thing it is obvious that MLB feels the need to look the other way on a lot of things...or else the entirety of the league would be in tatters.

Yeah, this is nothing new. I mean, it was 14+ years ago when Kenny Rogers had stuff on his arm during the playoffs for the Tigers. He went 3-0 in the playoffs that year while pitching 23 shutout innings.

Justacommeman

@Tabe said:

@thisistheshow said:
You're right, the money is too big. And more than that.....there are things that have gone on for a long time, like pitchers using something on the ball. It goes back to before the money, but now that there are literally hundreds of millions of dollars for pitchers....

After the trash can/bullpen cam thing it is obvious that MLB feels the need to look the other way on a lot of things...or else the entirety of the league would be in tatters.

Yeah, this is nothing new. I mean, it was 14+ years ago when Kenny Rogers had stuff on his arm during the playoffs for the Tigers. He went 3-0 in the playoffs that year while pitching 23 shutout innings.

All while roasting up some damn fine chicken

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keets

Sounds to me like a punk and his scumbag lawyer attempting to extort money using the legal system.

here's my take --- he provided something that everyone wanted, that MLB knew about and turned a blind-eye too. when he was "thrown under the bus" he decided to fight back. MLB hurt him in his pocketbook, he's doing the same.

LarkinCollector

@keets said:
Sounds to me like a punk and his scumbag lawyer attempting to extort money using the legal system.

here's my take --- he provided something that everyone wanted, that MLB knew about and turned a blind-eye too. when he was "thrown under the bus" he decided to fight back. MLB hurt him in his pocketbook, he's doing the same.

Nothing more fun than killing the golden goose once you've already got your piece.

craig44

my question is, does this if proven, disqualify all players involved from the hall of fame?

stevek

@Tabe said:

@stevek said:
I don't understand the lawsuit and how he has any chance of winning it.

He clearly broke an important MLB rule, and was fired because of it.

On top of that he rats out his customers.

Sounds to me like a punk and his scumbag lawyer attempting to extort money using the legal system. The usual strategy of a way too litigious society.

I hope he falls flat on his face.

I think his claim is that the team was aware of his activities - they were - and that approved of them.

Almost sounds like the steroid issue in the aspect that someone close to the team was bringing in a banned substance and it was being distributed to the players upon their request.

I never followed the steroid story all that closely other than the headlines, but i wonder if say a clubhouse employee got fired for bringing in steroids to the players, and then successfully sued the team?

bronco2078

@stevek said:

@Tabe said:

@stevek said:
I don't understand the lawsuit and how he has any chance of winning it.

He clearly broke an important MLB rule, and was fired because of it.

On top of that he rats out his customers.

Sounds to me like a punk and his scumbag lawyer attempting to extort money using the legal system. The usual strategy of a way too litigious society.

I hope he falls flat on his face.

I think his claim is that the team was aware of his activities - they were - and that approved of them.

Almost sounds like the steroid issue in the aspect that someone close to the team was bringing in a banned substance and it was being distributed to the players upon their request.

I never followed the steroid story all that closely other than the headlines, but i wonder if say a clubhouse employee got fired for bringing in steroids to the players, and then successfully sued the team?

maybe its not really a lawsuit but a negotiation .

thisistheshow

From reading through different articles on this, an interesting takeaway is the possibility that hitters knew and approved. Possibly because it wasn't about movement as much as control, and this helps cut down on unintentional and dangerous 'hit by pitch incidents'.

Tabe

@stevek said:

I never followed the steroid story all that closely other than the headlines, but i wonder if say a clubhouse employee got fired for bringing in steroids to the players, and then successfully sued the team?

Since steroid distribution is illegal, the employee in that instance would have no case. Pine tar concoctions aren't illegal, so big difference.

stevek

@Tabe said:

@stevek said:

I never followed the steroid story all that closely other than the headlines, but i wonder if say a clubhouse employee got fired for bringing in steroids to the players, and then successfully sued the team?

Since steroid distribution is illegal, the employee in that instance would have no case. Pine tar concoctions aren't illegal, so big difference.

Good point. However i still see no winning case for the plaintiff in a jury trial.

But of course the usual scumbag lawyer tactic of running up the defendant's legal bills, may make the defendant decide to settle rather than have their defendant lawyers constantly sucking them dry.

bronco2078

@stevek said:

@Tabe said:

@stevek said:

I never followed the steroid story all that closely other than the headlines, but i wonder if say a clubhouse employee got fired for bringing in steroids to the players, and then successfully sued the team?

Since steroid distribution is illegal, the employee in that instance would have no case. Pine tar concoctions aren't illegal, so big difference.

Good point. However i still see no winning case for the plaintiff in a jury trial.

But of course the usual scumbag lawyer tactic of running up the defendant's legal bills, may make the defendant decide to settle rather than have their defendant lawyers constantly sucking them dry.

whats your deal with lawyers?

are you worried baseball owners might be reduced to dining the dollar menu at mcdonalds?

You always side with the poor abused millionaire

stevek

@bronco2078 said:

@stevek said:

@Tabe said:

@stevek said:

I never followed the steroid story all that closely other than the headlines, but i wonder if say a clubhouse employee got fired for bringing in steroids to the players, and then successfully sued the team?

Since steroid distribution is illegal, the employee in that instance would have no case. Pine tar concoctions aren't illegal, so big difference.

Good point. However i still see no winning case for the plaintiff in a jury trial.

But of course the usual scumbag lawyer tactic of running up the defendant's legal bills, may make the defendant decide to settle rather than have their defendant lawyers constantly sucking them dry.

whats your deal with lawyers?

are you worried baseball owners might be reduced to dining the dollar menu at mcdonalds?

You always side with the poor abused millionaire

I'd don't like seeing lawyers winning frivolous lawsuits which winds up raising the price of beer at the ballpark.

bronco2078

@stevek said:

@bronco2078 said:

@stevek said:

@Tabe said:

@stevek said:

I never followed the steroid story all that closely other than the headlines, but i wonder if say a clubhouse employee got fired for bringing in steroids to the players, and then successfully sued the team?

Since steroid distribution is illegal, the employee in that instance would have no case. Pine tar concoctions aren't illegal, so big difference.

Good point. However i still see no winning case for the plaintiff in a jury trial.

But of course the usual scumbag lawyer tactic of running up the defendant's legal bills, may make the defendant decide to settle rather than have their defendant lawyers constantly sucking them dry.

whats your deal with lawyers?

are you worried baseball owners might be reduced to dining the dollar menu at mcdonalds?

You always side with the poor abused millionaire

I'd don't like seeing lawyers winning frivolous lawsuits which winds up raising the price of beer at the ballpark.

you think its a lawyers fault 7 cents worth of weasel piss costs $13 ?

stevek

@bronco2078 said:

@stevek said:

@bronco2078 said:

@stevek said:

@Tabe said:

@stevek said:

I never followed the steroid story all that closely other than the headlines, but i wonder if say a clubhouse employee got fired for bringing in steroids to the players, and then successfully sued the team?

Since steroid distribution is illegal, the employee in that instance would have no case. Pine tar concoctions aren't illegal, so big difference.

Good point. However i still see no winning case for the plaintiff in a jury trial.

But of course the usual scumbag lawyer tactic of running up the defendant's legal bills, may make the defendant decide to settle rather than have their defendant lawyers constantly sucking them dry.

whats your deal with lawyers?

are you worried baseball owners might be reduced to dining the dollar menu at mcdonalds?

You always side with the poor abused millionaire

I'd don't like seeing lawyers winning frivolous lawsuits which winds up raising the price of beer at the ballpark.

you think its a lawyers fault 7 cents worth of weasel piss costs $13 ?

Yes, it might have been only $12.75 otherwise.