Mint Confirmed No W Quarters In 2021. Is This Good Or Bad For The Hobby?
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Ok. So the Mint just released the last ATB quarter yesterday and confirmed that this Tuskegee Airmen quarter will not have any W produced. More importantly they confirmed that no 2021 W will be produced for any circulated coinage! Is this good or bad for the hobby?
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I’m not sure enough people were even aware of the W mint mark for it to make much of an impression on the hobby. So I think it’ll not have much impact.
Now, it they keep to a single design for more than a few months and introduce privy marks commemorating each of the various branch mints no longer making coinage, there might be enough to get people’s attention for a while.
I’m still waiting to see a single W quarter of any kind in circulation in my area.
Interesting point of view. If this is true then that means there is a possibility that as more people become aware of the W quarters then demand will grow for them and they are a limited edition product.
Where did you get that information?
That's too bad. It's a negative IMO. Perhaps it wasn't as visible on these boards, but the excitement of folks finding W quarters was palpable on the r/coins subReddit.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Mint Facebook page. Confirmed by Mint representative
Feb. 8 is the scheduled release date for all flavors of the Tuskagee NP quarter, including circulation coins.
Current mint product schedule confirms this.
The 'W" answer is found in the Facebook "comments." Let's hope it is incorrect as well.
The price of gold is set by faith, or lack of, in the currency it is priced in.
Might make for an interesting 2022. At least this should create discussions about the popularity and value of the W quarters to the hobby now that the Mint has ceased production of them.
Nope! That was the original plan but they released them yesterday.
Well...I like the W mint mark, mainly due to it's prior - and actually still, to some extent - rarity. I think they will eventually do some more releases.... perhaps not this year though. Cheers, RickO
As of this morning (Jan 5.) there are no flavors of this quarter posted for sale at the mint website and nothing on the Tuskagee NP Facebook page about any release event.
The price of gold is set by faith, or lack of, in the currency it is priced in.
We are talking about circulated quarters. As you are well aware no W quarters were ever available on the Mint website.
Part of me hopes not because that will make them more desirable as a collectible but it has been a lot of fun finding them so the other part of me hopes they will return in 2022!
Circulation NP quarters normally get released at same time as mint offerings. Where did you confirm this early release of the circulation coins?
Edited to add: You are correct. Found it on the Mint's Twitter:
The price of gold is set by faith, or lack of, in the currency it is priced in.
I know for a fact that all 10 of the ATB quarters that had W versions all had their Mint release events AFTER they were released in to circulation.
Also, last year the final two W quarters (San Antonio and RONR) were released into circulation the week before their official release dates so I don't understand why you find it so hard to believe me.
I am not making this up. A Mint representative confirmed no W releases for 2021on their Facebook page and the Mint announced the release yesterday on their Facebook page. 🙄
I only wanted confirmation, as I do with any mint release information, and I found it.
The price of gold is set by faith, or lack of, in the currency it is priced in.
You are exhausting dude! Do your homework.
You posted the info, I asked for your source. Normally when one offers breaking news they include their source, or at least provide it when asked. lol
The price of gold is set by faith, or lack of, in the currency it is priced in.
Wait. What? Read back through the entire thread. Asked and answered. 🤫 You are unbelievable!🙄
Had you been clear that you were talking only about the circulation coins, you would not have had to work so hard in this thread.
I simply explained that there are Tuskagee quarters that will not be released until Feb. 8. And, I provided the sources for my information.
I also provided the confirmation for your breaking news. I guess I did your homework. lol.
The price of gold is set by faith, or lack of, in the currency it is priced in.
Yeah...that's what you did. Cut off the rest of my post which clearly states circulated coins. You turned this thread in to your personal attack and away from the original intent which was to generate a discussion about whether the Mints decision to no longer produce W quarters is good or bad for the hobby.
All you did was confirm that I was right all along.
Hopefully you will stop so others can comment on my OP.🤞
I commented on your OP, but only because it was not clear. lol When the discussion you seek is based on new information, be prepared to also discuss the new information, particularly its source/reliability.
Not really much to discuss since any decision by the mint to remove a collectible coin such as the limited issue W quarter is not good for the hobby. The W quarters brought in new collectors.
The price of gold is set by faith, or lack of, in the currency it is priced in.
Help! Can someone other than derryb comment so we can make this a discussion on if the Mint's decision to not produce any 2021 W circulated coins is good or bad for the hobby? Please?
really disappointing as this is the last atb release and all recent releases had W versions out there; was hoping they'd finish the series continuing with the limited W releases
thx for the heads up
You are welcome and I agree this is disappointing but I am curious to see what this does to their collectibility.
I will miss looking for new ones but it would be great if this grows the demand for them. It seems many collectors have no interest in them currently which is confusing to me.🤔
NP W series was a one year (2019) program.
"The announcement of the “W” mint mark quarters coincides with the 227th anniversary of the United States Mint on April 2 and kicks off a program designed to spark a renewed interest in coin collecting. The release also ties in with the American Numismatic Association’s National Coin Week (April 21-27) and parallels a separate initiative that organizers have dubbed “the Great American Coin Hunt.” The coin hunt is a hobby-promoting event sponsored by participating coin dealers across the nation, who have publicly announced plans to place some of their own collectible coins into circulation by using them in commercial transactions during National Coin Week."
The program was later extended to include the five 2020 NP circulating coins. Would have been nice for them to extend it to the last coin of the series, the 2021 Tuskagee Airmen. Maybe we will be surprised by a discovery of it.
The price of gold is set by faith, or lack of, in the currency it is priced in.
As Forest Gump said, I'm tired, and he stopped...
It's not surprising really... really, why continue. producing? 2020 was a surprise, and probably only because of the V75.
Has no effect on the hobby..
I disagree. This will definitely have an effect good or bad. If you agree that the W quarters brought in new collectors then what will stopping them do?
W should be a novelty. What makes them meaningful, other then being produced every year. If new the collectors miss the W's, let them start a SAE collection, the obverse is Changing .. There is only one 1909 S VDB.
Agree to disagree... Will I miss them? Yes, miss selling... Thanks
I understand your viewpoint and thank you for sharing it. What makes them meaningful to me is from what I understand the 2019 W quarter is the first ever circulated coin to be produced by the West Point mint and the 2020 W is the first Privy mark on a circulated coin.
In addition, they only made 10 million of each year which from what I understand is just a small percentage of quarters made each year. Judging by their current value leveling off at above $5 each there is enough demand from collectors to make them collectible.
So, if they truly stop producing them then I believe these are a valuable part of a US coin collection. That being said, I am one of the new collectors that the Mint has attracted by these coins and I welcome views from everyone but I am especially eager to hear from the veteran coin collectors as to how they feel about them as a collectible.
I think that any perception that these are not popular w collectors has to be tempered with a broad look at the context of 1) their [2020 Ws] release into circulation in a year when many people were not making in-person cash purchases and 2) the time it takes for these to pop up for people in circulation coinage
like many others, I have yet to find a single W circulation qtr - from 2019-2020 - and, even though I'm not enthusiastically posting abt them all the time, im keenly interested in eventually collecting some nice specimens of each W qtr
I'd prefer to collect them from change finds, but - as always - time will tell
I believe these are and will be - probably even more so as time goes on - very collectable
wishing ever looker luck in discovering them
I don't care about the W quarters. Most of the general public neither knows nor cares. They were created as a short term novelty. I think their quite natural disappearance is a completely neutral occurrence.
In short, I agree with the Other Joe @Joe_360
Only time will tell and thank you for sharing your opinion 😎
True dat.
What would one more quarter have meant? They certainly weren't going to continue to seed bags with W quarters for the next 50 years. It has zero utility to the Mint and their core mission.
Now, if they wanted to Mint 50,000 of them per year and sell them for $25 on their website, that might have some benefit to the Mint.
I agree they had to stop at some point. I think most would agree that this last quarter should have been a W but who knows why they didn't do it.
I believe the Mint needs to do a better job of keeping the collectors informed of their plans and decisions instead of keeping us in the dark. It would be nice if they would publish press releases instead of posting it on Facebook! It seems we have to wait for Coin World to publish an article to get the facts after the fact!🤣😂
I don't think that releasing W Quarters has done much good for a collector like myself. The US Mint needs to go back to the KISS principle when it comes to products, but that's just me. But at the same time I understand why the US Mint does this as they need to bring new people into the hobby to buy their products. The US Mint knows their market very well and it is an entry to intermediate level collector market.
Interesting and I appreciate your feedback. So if you don't mind sharing what coins do you collect?
It was a gimmick which only affected a very small portion of the hobby, mostly a handful of folks like the op who were able to squeeze some revenue from the program. Just a blip on the radar for the hobby itself or the general collector, give them a bit of time and I'm sure that the mint will come up with another treat to trick collectors with.
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Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I like the design of that one.
And to answer the OP's question, I think it is a net neutral.
10 million may be a small percentage of the run but still very large. As such not a real foreseeable future collectible.
They have to get some more astute marketing people involved at some point, the precious metals market is booming and they are leaving too much money, investor and collector interest on the table.
Interesting point of view. So since you think you know me so well I am going to ask you point blank and not assume I know what you do with your coins.
Do you sell coins to generate income to support your hobby or just search rolls or buy the coins you collect and never ever sell a coin? I find it hypocritical for others to criticize someone for selling what they collect if they do it themselves. Please enlighten us.
I do agree that the Mint should offer more limited edition products but I constantly see complaints from collectors who have to buy on the secondary market when this happens so what do you propose they should do?
I like the design as well and thank you for your feedback. What do you collect?
Personally I think it will be a shame. I enjoyed checking my 2019/2020 quarters for W's. I wish they would do something like it.
Hey! Thank you for your comment and it's great to hear from you!
I get the strangest looks from cashiers when I check my quarters they give me in change. Some think I am counting it and get defensive so I have to explain about the W and then they get it!😂🤣
It used to be everything....now just deep cameo Roosevelt Dimes and toned Lincoln Cents , mostly the wood-grain toning, and toned
Lincoln Memorial cents.
(I know...kinda weird...)
I also love varieties.....doubled dies, repunched mint marks, repunched dates, etc. and look for them in most coin series.
I am also trying to assemble a set of well-worn Memorial cents.....a real challenge....no interest at the current time by mainstream collectors...but I know I am a trendsetter.😆
LOL. It's nice to hear from u 2. I can't message ppl ive sold stuff while im here lol. Anyways I look at ALL my change. but lose interest in most state quarters if their not the 2019/2020.
No that's my point exactly! Alot of veteran collectors make me feel defensive about the W quarters when they criticize me but who are they to judge us?
They miss the entire concept that all of us are equals as collectors and should be treated with the respect we deserve no matter what coins or paper money we choose to collect or sell!
I may not agree or even understand why someone collects what they do but I will never criticize or try to demean them.
Quite the contrary, I like to learn about different coins and paper money and what it is that makes them collectible.
I believe there are some members here and at coin shows who have forgotten the reason they started to collect in the first place. IT'S FUN!😎
I have been thinking about your post and this is my response to your comment. I agree the general public is unaware of the W quarters. In fact, many don't even know about the Mint marks in general but when I explain to them about the W quarters they are interested and they want to learn more. I disagree that they don't care about them.
I think I noticed another thread comparing the mintages of the "W" quarters vs. that of the "S" quarters which noted that the "S" quarters have about 1/2 of the mintage of the "W"s, but since the "W"s are distributed in random circulation rolls, they will be harder to obtain in nicer condition and in smaller quantities - thus the "W"s might have more longterm potential for price appreciation. Or, they might not.
The negative side to all this is that older collectors such as myself find it annoying and somewhat confusing to keep up with the Mint's creation of varieties and different finishes. If you are a specialist in one series, that may be just fine. But, if you try to collect a number of current denominations, it becomes more challenging and time-consuming just to collect a basic series - when it should not be that involved and costly. It becomes a cash drain when you have to either pay a hefty premium to the Mint or a hefty premium to a roll searcher - for what amounts to ordinary circulation coinage.
If you are a newer collector, hey - this may be the direction the hobby is headed - specialized output for new market segments while throwing a curveball into the planning of established collectors. If that's the case, more power to ya - but I won't be joining that particular party. Eric Jordan commented on this trend towards specialization a few years ago in the context of Modern Bullion.
I knew it would happen.