More fun for eBay sellers...
MasonG
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especially those with eBay stores that have lots of listings.
Starting January 20, 2021, sellers who have listings in the Coins & Paper Money category will be required to update item specifics in the Year and Denomination fields. If the required item specifics are not updated, the ability to create new listings, or relist or revise current listings, will be interrupted, and listings will not successfully publish.
Year and Denomination item specifics fields are already part of the listing process and are currently “recommended,” but will now be “required” effective January 20.
Yay! 1,000 items that will need to be manually edited! Too much fun! And that's not all- there's more!
Starting January 13, 2021, sellers in the Coins & Paper Money categories, including Bullion, will be notified to register or will be activated for managed payments if you’ve already pre-registered.
I'm sure this will be simple and easy.
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So much for listing any more rolls or lots on Ebay. I guess I could pick one date out of the group and that would be okay? What about multiple denominations though? This would give buyers and easy way to run a chargeback wouldn't it?
Sure hope I can write ND or No Date, I think I can.
Many error coins or very worn coins do not have dates.
At this point, who knows? And it would be a waste of time to ask eBay as it would appear the people who work there don't understand that what works for one thing doesn't always work for the next.
This certainly looks like it will be a big time challenge for listing world material, while they have added many more denominations than they had in the past, there are literally hundreds if not thousands of denominations that they don't have included...
Justin Meunier
Boardwalk Numismatics
What are managed payments?
Thanks
Frank D
So you have been leaving this info out, why?
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
It's in the title. You know- the first thing you see before clicking on the listing.
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What in the world is a KM number?
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It's a catalog number used for world coins. There are numbers assigned for US coins, too. Wonder if US sellers are going to have to update all their listings.
So why not put it into the area that ebay has allotted for it?
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Because it's already in the title, and searchable there. Also, eBay changes/adds/updates their "Item Specifics" more often than a neurotic germaphobe washes his hands.
Still don't get the issue, your mad because ebay is now requiring you to do what you should have done all along, not sure why that is an ebay problem because you have not been doing what you should have done.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
The thing is, I think it automatically gets it from the title when it can.
Arguably, there are also some with ambiguous denominations -- a cent struck on a struck dime, for example.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars
In the past some of the required boxes allowed you to type in your own info.
I just went to one listing and updated all the boxes to "Not applicable" and it worked. Hopefully that will be fine going forward.
Yes, that much is clear.
So just answer the question.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I'm already typing out the title no matter what... now I have to write the information again, and I'm not sure it gets me any more eyeballs. I've scripted a bunch of the past requirements (slab companies, circ/uncirc, etc.) which works okay in Excel (where I prep my listings) but these are going to be tougher. What about mixed lots? Why do I have to specify the denomination when I list the coin in a denomination-based category? What about all the different foreign denominations past and present?
Why should he have done it? It was neither necessary nor required.
It stands for the numbers used in the Krause-Mishler catalogs.
Yes. This.
You can put in "no date" or "various" if you wish. You can also type in any denomination you want or "various"
There is NO PROBLEM with the item specifics in that regard. It's just the nuisance of filling in half a dozen boxes for a $2 coin.
When they start requiring Krause numbers, I'm going to retire. Looking up the KM number for an Israeli 100 Lirot to sell it for$2 is more work than it's worth
Because:
A. It's not necessary since the info is in the title and is searchable using the search bar at the top of the page. Item specifics aren't searchable there.
B. It's not required and takes more time to include it.
C. Whenever I've tried it, searching using the item specifics misses items that are found in a regular search.
Ok?
I already include it. It's in the description... you know, that thing that's searchable- like the title.
Maybe I should just title everything "See item specifics" and just forget about a description.
I include it if I know it. For really cheap stuff, it's all about volume. If I'm making a buck on a coin, spending more than 3 minutes on it is a waste. And that includes photo, listing and shipping.
Most everything I have already has it on the holder so I don't have to look it up.
On a somewhat more positive note, after reading the post by U1chicago above, I tried using eBay's bulk editing feature and was able to add "N/A" to those fields for multiple items in one category. The only downside is you have to do this for every category you have coins listed in but it'll still be faster than doing it individually.
so I follow the links in my message and it says you can not use it for bullion or coins .... is that old?
they will keep the float for a couple days and then deposit into your bank account?
Yes, the bulk editing works pretty well.
I have been wondering about this too. Where do you find the KM number
I imagine it's the typical eBay "left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing" foolishness.
We'll soon find out... lol
Sounds like you can just make something up, like you can with every other field, and it won't matter. As long as you waste the time to add the useless information, eBay will be happy.
To answer your question, Numista has this kind of info.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars
You need the Frause-Mishler Catalogue of World Coins which is a standard reference book about the size of a phone book.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
Thanks for the help. I think I am going to try NA😂🤣
Required item specifics such as denomination and date are used in the search algorithms. Ebay is trying to improve their search results. Yes you will get more (or less) eyeballs by entering item specifics.
KM numbers are currently not required
It will happen suddenly
WoooHooo! More ebay "improvements" I think I just wet myself a little bit!
Maybe somebody should tell eBay that not all coins have KM numbers?
edited to add... In the interest of accuracy, coins in the KM catalogs do all have catalog numbers, it's just that some of those numbers are from other catalogs that were not created as part of the KM cataloguing system.
A very clunky system that we have to work to make operative already. And why does searching past transactions in your account default to buyer ID? Bottom line: ebay doesn't have professional coin or currency people advising them, but has a one size fits all for all their listings.
Yes, can someone explain that in simpleton terms? I've read it and don't get it.
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"Starting January 13, 2021, sellers in the Coins & Paper Money categories, including Bullion, will be notified to register or will be activated for managed payments if you’ve already pre-registered. Sellers that are already activated on managed payments may create listings in these categories beginning January 25."
Does this mean if you sign up on the 13th you won't be able to create a listing until the 25th?
You guys are getting really close to pissing EOC off! I would be careful.
Managed Payments is just a system for managing payments for eBay customers. It allows you to used multiple different payment options and then funnels the money to the seller. You are now not simply restricted to using PayPal.
Just say "Mint shenanigans" and that'll finish the job.
It seems with managed payments ebay is completely separating itself from paypal.
So as a seller would I have to be a participant in all the different payment types or will eBay just send it to my PayPal if that's what I want, regardless of how the buyer paid? I haven't sold there in a long time but I'm gearing up to do so.
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I think it would be more accurate to say they are expanding beyond simply PayPal. You can still use PayPal to pay. You now have the option of other payments from credit cards to Google/Apply Pay.
https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/service-and-payments/managed-payments-on-ebay.html
Thanks for the link. So now eBay is reporting your eBay income to the feds automatically?
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eBay would know how much money you took in but has no clue whether or not there was any profit after expenses. Pretty much the way it currently works with PayPal.
as @MasonG said, PayPal already does. It's a federal law. All payment processors have to do it.
I agree that it's highly irritating to go to the drop-down boxes to fill in newly "required" information....like the date, duh, (in the listing) mint location (in the listing) denomination (in the listing)....etc.
Also bugs me to have to fill in "uncirculated" in a coin with a "MS" grade by the TPGs.
Or, to have to incorrectly select "uncirculated" for a proof coin.
eBay must have idiots in charge of the idiot-proofing that they must want for idiot buyers.
Even though coins account for a relatively small percentage of eBay's revenue, you would think it would be beneficial to all to hire a consultant who isn't completely ignorant about coins to help streamline the process for sellers.
Somewhere along the way, the great minds at eBay forgot that in order to have buyers, you must have sellers.
Sellers that aren't exhausted or exasperated from useless hoop-jumping.
So basically if you sell a bunch of crap that's been in your attic for years for pennies on the dollar, the government is going to get something.
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