1916 1C anything good?
Endeavor1967
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I am not a coin guy. I am into paper. I did buy a deal with a bag of wheat pennies. I’ve been looking them over. This one really stands out. I did a little research and did see that this date can bring some money. I’m sure there’s a reason.
Is this anything?
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Your avatar looks good but the pics are too blurry to grade. If I squint my eyes I see MS64 which is priced at 115.00.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1916-1c-rd/2488
The fields are odd and Lincoln's nose is not the right shape. I suspect it is a recent counterfeit.
I wonder if the owner believes this might be a proof?
(In my opinion, it is not.). For mintstate I'd give it an MS grade yet potentially cleaned.
Here is a genuine proof (vs business strike).
The pictures aren’t clear enough for me to tell whether the coin is almost uncirculated or low grade mint state, though I suspect the former. Based on what I can see, my guess is that it’s worth less than $20.
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I'm in the counterfeit camp.
The rim looks suspicious and the obverse and reverse, very different from one another. Hopefully, better pictures can be provided.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
And look at the "Liberty"
I can’t tell what’s distortion and what’s really there (or not).
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Agreed
Looks like Lincoln has no neck. I think the coin is a fake also.
Definitely need better pictures.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
Cmon fake?
No it’s not fake.
It’s very much real. I will make another attempt at pictures.
I am not here trying to sell it. I have no reason to show you a fake penny.
If it is fake by chance it would be odd to be in a bag of about 200 other wheatback pennies I know things get rough on this forum but please don’t make any assumptions.
Here are pictures from a different background. I have the iPhone 12 pro series. It’s supposed to take amazing pictures. Let’s see if I can figure this out.
Looks AU details cleaned to me if real. It looks a bit sus so I’ll leave it to the more experienced members to determine it’s authenticity as I don’t have the best track record...
No one said or implied that you’d knowingly display a counterfeit example or are trying to sell the coin. There are many occasions when someone posts a coin, which, unknown to them, is a copy.
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From your second set of photos the coin looks to be an AU coin with some possible cuts or heavy scrapes. Good coin for an album but only worth two or three bucks at most.
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You're not a coin guy, remember?
There are a lot of fakes out there. You could easily have accidentally acquired one. You can actually buy complete date sets of them from aliexpress.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Reproduction-USA-Small-Cents-1916-P_1600079087848.html
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Whole-Set-of-54PCS-1859-1860_62100804175.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.deiletai6.9.2f6dec35W2UsWT
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/142PCS-1909-1958-Different-Dates-and_62101373030.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.deiletai6.3.6fad2da2rmhYW6
Still something odd about the rims. Misaligned die?
I totally agree about the rim. It’s super wide. Then almost has an inner circle. The background is definitely a matte finish not smooth which is what made me consider posting it. I think the AU grade is fair. There are actually some pretty good
dates in this lot.
Are any pennies from the 1950’s worth anything? There is one in a paper stapled holder that has a $40 price tag but these coins haven’t seen the light of day in 20-30 years.
Besides the double die?
still doesn't look quite right to me.
Only if it's a high grade specimen. $40 is too much for a 50's cent. If the seller thinks it's worth 40 then he has most likely assigned a price according to grade. The problem with that scenario is you still have to have it graded for 40 bucks for a coin you might sell for 25.00 that you now have 80 into. The only way you win there is if, A: You don't mind spending 40 and put it in an album to enjoy it or B: The seller under graded it, it's actually a MS67 and worth a couple hundred.
Yes, many (most) the Philly minted coins from the 1950's are worth several hundred to several thousand in MS67RD condition. MS66RD usually sell for under $100, MS65 and under $5 or $10 bucks for some of the dates.
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@Endeavor1967 Try backing the phone off to about 20" or so then enlarge the screen slightly before you click. This might help with a clearer pic.
Okay. I’ve got one more I would like to know about. Actually about 20 more but I will post one more and I will back up as you suggested.
Okay last one.
1939 looks like it’s uncirculated to me but I am a newbie.
So from the images is this a good coin with any value?
None of these coins have been tampered with. Is it acceptable in any way to dip or somehow remove any surface discoloration?
The 1939 is a spender, that date comes very nice and there are thousands already graded at the MS66/MS67 levels. No dipping copper is a big no-no, if you have any green gunk or slime a bath in acetone is the only option.
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I had high hopes on that 1916.I’ve got a lot more but my coin time is over for tonight.
If any of you folks have any paper oney you would like to sell PM. I like large size and nationals.
Fancy numbers too!
I just bought this. It’s pretty unique. I cannot seem to locate another $50 with a solid serial number. This has a great number too!
The coin is worth roughly 3 to 5 cents and it’s generally not advisable to dip or clean copper coins.
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@Endeavor1967....You have excellent input on your cents... and your pictures have improved. That certainly is an amazing serial number on that $50 bill....I be the currency forum would like to see it. Cheers, RickO
I am going to put that $50 up for sale in the BST. It’s not in my wheelhouse but I like to wheel and deal like everyone else here. It makes me a little money to buy fir my collection.
I don’t really know if there is anything really good. It’s tedious going through them all. I was going to count them all up and just put them on the BST as a group at a fair price and let someone else see if there are any winners. Lots of wheat backs from the teens and twenties. Kind of a mixed bag. I know what I paid. I was going to add a little and let them go.
So if someone is interested shoot me a pm and I’ll give them first crack including the coins I have already shown. There is also a novelty penny that’s been stretched that says 1933 worlds fair Indian villages. I don’t know if that has value.
I just don’t have time to take images of them all. It’s around or over 100 wheatbacks. One is a 1955 but I don’t think it’s a double die.
Someone might get lucky.
I have a question posted in the Q&A section regarding cleaning PVC/Verdigras on copper coins using acetone. Can you tell me how you go about this? Old Lincoln cents, some with the green stuff and some with a greasy slime from improper storage in the old soft flips. Appreciate it as I have been trying to find information on this but not much luck - acetone cleaning of copper cents. Thanks.
I gave you as much info as I know/have on using acetone on your Q&A thread.
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Really appreciate your comments; clearly written and very thorough. Thank you for taking the time to help me out. Tomorrow is "Hit 'em with Acetone Day"
Jim