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A very mysterious Large Cent...

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Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks real.
    Ground find?

    When in doubt, don't.
  • opportunityopportunity Posts: 984 ✭✭✭✭

    @DennisH said:
    Looks real.
    Ground find?

    Not by me, but I'm sure it was.

    Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.

  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2020 9:55AM

    Yes. This one has seen better days.
    “ED”...... and Viagra isn’t going to help this time.

    So, there’s my comment, as requested. :-)

    The writing on the side is noteworthy however, and leads me to believe that this may be something other than a large cent. And looking more carefully, I now see what could be the remnants of a flowing hair profile- as d9lowe later points out .

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2020 9:45AM

    I can barely see the OBV Liberty Head and cap along with the lower portions of LIBERTY. Interesting nonetheless.

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  • d9lowed9lowe Posts: 297 ✭✭✭✭

    Almost looks like a Flowing Hair obverse

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2020 10:02AM

    You have a 1793- 95 lettered edge.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the 1790's but so far gone it may not be worth bothering with unless it can be shown to be ultra-rare Sheldon number.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    interesting stuff

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2020 10:39AM

    @ambro51 said:
    You have a 1793- 95 lettered edge.

    Agree with this, that's as far as I can go with what's shown. As for speculation, the '93 Lib Caps are darn rare, and the '95 thick planchet/Lettered Edge cents are scarce, so it's most likely a 1794.
    Adding after a little more thought and checking- not a '93, as that appears to be single leaf, stem pointing up, after DOLLAR. Sounds like the 93's have a leaf cluster, and most of the '94 Head of 93's have the stem pointing down.

    From the 1790's but so far gone it may not be worth bothering with unless it can be shown to be ultra-rare Sheldon number.

    From my perspective, it is an NC-1 (non collectible one) for me - sorry, a little Sheldon/EAC humor....

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep.... Looks like a large cent from the 1700's.... Cannot tell much more.... Looks as if it were buried in unfriendly soil for a long time. Cheers, RickO

  • Looks like a 1794 Head of 1794 to me. The amount of space between the highest wave of hair and LIBERTY would eliminate 1795, and the same wave on 1793 would be further to the right under the T -- looks like under the R from these images.

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2020 10:53AM

    Can you get a weight?

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Low Ball Candidate, possibly a PO.0000001

    :)

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If this coin was straight graded as a PO.0000001 I would immediately submit it to CAC to see if it would receive a green bean or even a gold bean.

    It looks very high end for whatever grade it is.

    :)

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 44,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do the grading services ever use the Basal State-0 grade? :D

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2020 11:47AM

    @PerryHall said:
    Do the grading services ever use the Basal State-0 grade? :D

    There are a few issues which are sufficiently unique even very worn condition to be identifiable. The 1793 half cent is an example, specimens no doubt exist in BS 00

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    Do the grading services ever use the Basal State-0 grade? :D

    I don’t think so. I’ve seen some in holders so completely worn down that nearly no details are visible but enough to identify it. They graded it PO-01.

  • tcollectstcollects Posts: 685 ✭✭✭✭

    my first impression was 1794

    I like it!

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 44,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TurtleCat said:

    @PerryHall said:
    Do the grading services ever use the Basal State-0 grade? :D

    I don’t think so. I’ve seen some in holders so completely worn down that nearly no details are visible but enough to identify it. They graded it PO-01.

    This makes sense since a Basal State coin is by definition unidentifiable so no grading service would slab such a coin.

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